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Post by Araxi » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:19 pm

No, I already have my name registered. As long as nobody has my name in NB or NS then it's mine.

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Post by mr x » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:23 pm

Isn't there more to it than that? Remember what happened with Hell Bay. And Kilted Moose.
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Post by derek » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:55 am

mr x wrote:Isn't there more to it than that? Remember what happened with Hell Bay. And Kilted Moose.
There certainly is. The provincial registry doesn't check foreign trademarks. So registering "Celtic Knot" just means they don't have another brewery, or probably anything in retail, with that name, in NB and possibly the Maritimes. You can still get sued by somebody anywhere else in the world if they think there's a chance that you'll infringe on their marks. You can even get sued by people who registered their marks after you - and potentially lose if they actually used their mark first.

It probably won't ever be a problem for a nano-brewery if you want to stay "nano-"...
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Post by mr x » Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:02 am

Yeah, you can get into weird stuff, like the Red Racer/Racer 5 thing, and this one:

http://beerblotter.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... trademark/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Just wanted to throw that out there before you spend money on labels/shirts/glasses/etc., and then wind up with a nasty letter.
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Post by Araxi » Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:07 am

I registered it as Celtic Knot Brewing. I don't plan to expand to a mega brewery, I just want to offer more locally made beer is all. Hopefully I can fly under the radar. If not then meh, I'll change the name.

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Post by mr x » Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:34 am

In the same vein, I wonder how long before this comes up?

http://www.bridgebrewing.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by jeffsmith » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:27 am

mr x wrote:In the same vein, I wonder how long before this comes up?

http://www.bridgebrewing.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I've been wondering that as well. A buddy of mine from BC pointed that out to me a while back when I was telling him about the new breweries opening up in NS.

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Post by mr x » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:30 am

It may not seem like much now, but what happens down the road if both businesses grow and become successful? Somebody is going to lose their branding and intellectual identity that they built. That's a huge mistake. Massive.
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Post by jeffsmith » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:13 am

I think it depends. Case in point:

http://www.epicbrewing.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Mind you, those two are on opposite sides of the globe. Within North America though, I completely agree.

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Post by mr x » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:29 am

I don't think there are international limitations. Doesn't seem to be when thinking of the Budweiser/McDonald's/Bear Republic/Anchor Brewing/etc. lawsuits.
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Post by canuck » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:17 pm

I met with my local town council this evening. It was a little intimidating as I had to stand on a podium in front of everyone while they drilled me questions. LOL. Anyways, after about 45 mins or so, it was over and they officially approved a nano brewery out of my home. While I'm very happy, still lots of other hurdles to overcome. But still, it's one' step out of the way.

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Post by mr x » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:18 pm

Sweet!

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Post by jeffsmith » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:32 pm

Sweet!

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Post by akr71 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:51 am

:spilly:
Wow, this is good news. Out of the home too. :thumbup: IIRC AcadieBroue had to be in a separate building or some such silliness.
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Post by bluenose » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:02 am

YAY

Good work guys!

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Post by sleepyjamie » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:03 am

Make sure you have this setup before BSNB, so i can come and drink!
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Post by LiverDance » Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:30 pm

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Post by canuck » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:36 pm

akr71 wrote::spilly:
Wow, this is good news. Out of the home too. :thumbup: IIRC AcadieBroue had to be in a separate building or some such silliness.
Yeah, Patrice's local municipality wouldn't let him brew out of his home. He had a petition against him as well with people all worried about rat infestation, beer getting into the town water, etc. :crazy: He had to rent a garage just out of that particular town limit to get approved IIRC. For me, it was either do it out of my home or I wouldn't pursue it any further. The town council last night was exceptionally good to deal with, and it was nice to see some forward thinking people for a change.

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Post by canuck » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:37 pm

sleepyjamie wrote:Make sure you have this setup before BSNB, so i can come and drink!
I doubt that everything will be in place before BSBNB, but that shouldn't stop you from coming over and drinking! :D

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Post by Graham.C » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:40 pm

akr71 wrote::spilly:
Wow, this is good news. Out of the home too. :thumbup: IIRC AcadieBroue had to be in a separate building or some such silliness.
I think I recall Patrice saying that was a Moncton bylaw thing, not a NB thing. I don't remember, my attention was more focused on his berliner weisse at the time :mmm:
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Post by canuck » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:46 pm

Graham.C wrote:
akr71 wrote::spilly:
Wow, this is good news. Out of the home too. :thumbup: IIRC AcadieBroue had to be in a separate building or some such silliness.
I think I recall Patrice saying that was a Moncton bylaw thing, not a NB thing. I don't remember, my attention was more focused on his berliner weisse at the time :mmm:
That's correct, it was just a Moncton municipal thing. Next door in Riverview, Bruce got approved out of his house.....so it just depends on the local bylaws. If I still lived in next door Rothesay, I would of probably had zero chance in getting it approved out of my house.

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Post by Graham.C » Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:28 pm

canuck wrote:
Graham.C wrote:
akr71 wrote::spilly:
Wow, this is good news. Out of the home too. :thumbup: IIRC AcadieBroue had to be in a separate building or some such silliness.
I think I recall Patrice saying that was a Moncton bylaw thing, not a NB thing. I don't remember, my attention was more focused on his berliner weisse at the time :mmm:
That's correct, it was just a Moncton municipal thing. Next door in Riverview, Bruce got approved out of his house.....so it just depends on the local bylaws. If I still lived in next door Rothesay, I would of probably had zero chance in getting it approved out of my house.
Good thing you moved then. :) I look forward to trying your brews. Are you setting up a retail, or supplying local establishments?
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Post by sleepyjamie » Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:35 pm

canuck wrote:
sleepyjamie wrote:Make sure you have this setup before BSNB, so i can come and drink!
I doubt that everything will be in place before BSBNB, but that shouldn't stop you from coming over and drinking! :D
awesome. maybe should have a pre-meeting thursday night before BSNB.
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Post by canuck » Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:39 pm

Graham.C wrote:
canuck wrote:
Graham.C wrote: That's correct, it was just a Moncton municipal thing. Next door in Riverview, Bruce got approved out of his house.....so it just depends on the local bylaws. If I still lived in next door Rothesay, I would of probably had zero chance in getting it approved out of my house.
Good thing you moved then. :) I look forward to trying your brews. Are you setting up a retail, or supplying local establishments?
The plan is just to supply a couple of local establishments. I've got three places in mind, with two pretty much a guarantee. BUT, I don't want to get ahead of myself too much and just concentrate on getting the rest of the necessary licenses and approvals first. :)

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Post by canuck » Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:41 pm

sleepyjamie wrote:
canuck wrote:
sleepyjamie wrote:Make sure you have this setup before BSNB, so i can come and drink!
I doubt that everything will be in place before BSBNB, but that shouldn't stop you from coming over and drinking! :D
awesome. maybe should have a pre-meeting thursday night before BSNB.
Great idea, that's definitely doable. I have a large backyard that's totally private with no neighbours so it would be perfect.

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