Filtering pros and cons

Post by **RubberToe** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:55 pm

I've recently used S-04 for the first time and the fermentation was massive compared to S-05. You'd likely be on different timelines for your real ale with different yeasts if you're going by gravity to move to the keg.

know1 · Post by **know1** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:48 pm

I vacuum filtered an oktoberfest for a quick "simulated lagering" and it was okay. It was crystal clear and good for the most part but I think the increased agitation drastically shortened the freshness life. most of mine comes out very clear as it is especially since using irish moss and cold crashing. I'll leave the filtering for the wine.

Juniper Hill · Post by **Juniper Hill** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:12 pm

I suppose you could push filter from one keg to another using CO2 without too much worry about oxidation. Probably a lot more work than fining.

GuingesRock · Post by **GuingesRock** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:27 pm

I’d be more worried about being taken outside and shot by CAMRA. That probably just happens in the UK though. I think Budweiser probably has a bigger army on this side of the pond.

We need to keep up the fight against commercial mass produced brewing practises. The battle has been fought and won in other countries and craft beer is really starting to catch on here. It’s an easy battle if you ask me. Sure! their beer is cold

jason.loxton · Post by **jason.loxton** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:07 pm

My beers have been pretty much crystal clear with just Irish moss in the kettle and cold crashing (sometimes with gelatin). Even WB-06 and WLP320 dropped completely clean (and I *wanted* some yeast in suspension with those). If you use finings, make sure to chill your beer as cold as possible before adding.

As an aside: Biofine is a vegan product. I have not used it, but it is a an alternative for through who don't want hooves or fish in their beer.

CorneliusAlphonse · Post by **CorneliusAlphonse** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:04 pm

My beer is cloud and that's the way I like it

GuingesRock · Post by **GuingesRock** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:03 pm

Clear beer?…what yeast do you use?

Cloudy beer?…what yeast, and are you selecting it for other advantages, superior flavour etc?

Just spent an hour on Google and not having much luck with that. Just found the usual general advice on yeast choice but no specifics.

Thanks

gm- · Post by **gm-** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:07 pm

This beer has been sitting in the keezer for 4 days (with gelatin). Clear enough for me.

Timothy Doane · Post by **Timothy Doane** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:42 pm

I have been filtering for years with the keg to keg system from Noble Grape.
It does require patience, it is an additional step, sometimes the pads require changing due to plugging.
It does give the beer a professional appearance.
The first time I kegged I didn't filter and the first few glasses were murky, and I knew I could do better.
I often see my self an an abbasssador of homebrew to those who visit my home and I'm sure a murky glass of beer would turn some off.

Barr · Post by **Barr** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:55 pm

The great thing about homebrewing is doing it your own way. To me filtering feels like cheating and seems like too much work. I have committed to no filtering and so far only had haze when dry hopping or with wheat beers. Part of what attracted me to brewing is that it's an ancient art. I like simple and natural.

benwedge · Post by **benwedge** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:11 pm

jason.loxton wrote:As an aside: Biofine is a vegan product. I have not used it, but it is a an alternative for through who don't want hooves or fish in their beer.

Having done some research following your comment, BioFine Clear is the vegan variant. Regular-old biofine is not vegan.

jason.loxton · Post by **jason.loxton** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:47 pm

BenWedge: Right you are! http://www.brewing-solutions.com/products/?id=16" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I didn't even know there was a regular Biofine.

GuingesRock: To be honest, the easiest way to a clear beer is S-04. Fermented at cool temps, it's wet equivalents (WLP002/Wyeast 1968) are behind a lot of commercial yumminess, including clean beers like Moose Drool and Mirror Pond pale ale. Drops out like a brick. I love the stuff.

dean2k · Post by **dean2k** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:57 pm

Time and clarity: For what it's worth, my summer saison bottled at the end of June. I know, not kegged... But there were no finings in the boil. Bonus points for naming the Disney princess.

Ladd · Post by **Ladd** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:31 pm

dean2k wrote:Bonus points for naming the Disney princess.

Gonna have to take a shot at that... Is it Ariel?

Beautiful looking glass of brew by the way!

Jayme · Post by **Jayme** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:45 pm

benwedge wrote:
jason.loxton wrote:As an aside: Biofine is a vegan product. I have not used it, but it is a an alternative for through who don't want hooves or fish in their beer.
Having done some research following your comment, BioFine Clear is the vegan variant. Regular-old biofine is not vegan.

My biggest issue with the 'vegan alternative' is that they typically use some form of silca or a polycarbonate. I would argue that fining with gelatin does not make the beer unsuitable for a vegan - if done correctly none of the finings should make it into the final product. If you're going to counter my argument with 'some always makes its way through', I'm going to go ahead and say it's healthier to consume gelatin than poisonous plastic. Not to mention, if gelatin is made responsibly, it's helping to use up the remains of animals that would otherwise go to waste.

GuingesRock · Post by **GuingesRock** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:55 pm

You can't argue with a vegan, but it would be interesting to hear what they think about that. The alternative sounds pretty bad.

dean2k is it Sophia?

benwedge · Post by **benwedge** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:11 pm

Jayme wrote:My biggest issue with the 'vegan alternative' is that they typically use some form of silca or a polycarbonate. I would argue that fining with gelatin does not make the beer unsuitable for a vegan - if done correctly none of the finings should make it into the final product. If you're going to counter my argument with 'some always makes its way through', I'm going to go ahead and say it's healthier to consume gelatin than poisonous plastic. Not to mention, if gelatin is made responsibly, it's helping to use up the remains of animals that would otherwise go to waste.

They tend to take issue with animals being harmed. They don't care if it's a by-product. (See also: leather.)

I'm going to continue simply not filtering my beer. It's been treating me well so far.

GuingesRock · Post by **GuingesRock** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:24 pm

There are some health concerns with carrageen (ulceration of bowel and various cancers). I’m hoping we are ok using Irish moss because we let it settle out.
http://www.nowtoronto.com/lifestyle/sto ... ent=190988
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA44833

dean2k · Post by **dean2k** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:09 pm

Ladd wrote:
Gonna have to take a shot at that... Is it Ariel?

Beautiful looking glass of brew by the way!

Thanks, you're too kind. And the princess is Rapunzel. Sorry kids. :spilly:

Post by **mr x** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:41 am

No matter more OT in this thread please. I'm moving all this later.

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Post by **chalmers** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:01 am

mr x wrote:No matter more OT in this thread please. I'm moving all this later.

Done (hopefully to your liking).

Post by **mr x** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:14 am

Thx.

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