Single Hop Tasting - Jan 19th

[jeffsmith]

I thought we had already settled on a 94% 2-Row/6% C-60 split for the grain bill a few pages ago along with the hopping schedule?

As for hops, I think we should likely do first come first serve. There are only a few overlaps in first choices so I think in most cases it really shouldn't be an issue considering most everyone has entered multiple choices.

[hogie]

I thought we had already settled on a 94% 2-Row/6% C-60 split for the grain bill a few pages ago along with the hopping schedule?

Agreed.

As for hops, I think we should likely do first come first serve. There are only a few overlaps in first choices so I think in most cases it really shouldn't be an issue considering most everyone has entered multiple choices.

If TimGr switches to Citra, then we're good to go.

[akr71]

I agree with Jeff - DC has a splash of roast barley in the recipe he posted & I'm fine with that. Add it or don't - it'll add a bit of color, but that's about it.

Hows this look?
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Boil Size: 28.71 l
Post Boil Volume: 26.82 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 22.00 l
Bottling Volume: 19.16 l
Estimated OG: 1.056 SG
Estimated Color: 16.0 EBC
Estimated IBU: 48.0 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 82.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
5500.00 g Pale Malt (2 Row) US (3.9 EBC) Grain 1 94.4 %
300.00 g Crystal Malt - 60L (Thomas Fawcett) (118 Grain 2 5.2 %
25.00 g Roasted Barley (591.0 EBC) Grain 3 0.4 %
49.25 g Wakatu [7.60 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 36.6 IBUs
25.25 g Wakatu [7.60 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 5 11.4 IBUs
60.00 g Wakatu [7.60 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 6 0.0 IBUs

As for choosing hops - first come-first serve may be the best approach... just highlight the hop you use. Tho' if you have something on the list no one else does, it makes sense to use that one (IMO)

[Graham.C]

hogie, can I do centennial and you do bravo?

[akr71]

So...
SleepyJamie Chinook
Hogie (Aleanders) Bravo
Jeff Smith Nelson Sauvin
Andy/akr Simcoe
chalmers ?
Larry Northern Brewer
LiverDance Polaris
Tim Gr Columbus or Citra
Stu Tettnang
Tim G(allant) Amarillo
mgc (Graham) Centennial
pet lion (Peter) Glacier
GAM (Sandy) Mt Hood

Anybody else want in on this thing? DC? Delta Force (it was your idea guys - love to have you along)? Bueller? Bueller?

[Tim Gregory]

I thought we had already settled on a 94% 2-Row/6% C-60 split for the grain bill a few pages ago along with the hopping schedule?

Agreed.

As for hops, I think we should likely do first come first serve. There are only a few overlaps in first choices so I think in most cases it really shouldn't be an issue considering most everyone has entered multiple choices.

If TimGr switches to Citra, then we're good to go.

I can do that!

[GAM]

So...
SleepyJamie Chinook
Hogie (Aleanders) Bravo
Jeff Smith Nelson Sauvin
Andy/akr Simcoe
chalmers ?
Larry Northern Brewer
LiverDance Polaris
Tim Gr Columbus or Citra
Stu Tettnang
Tim G(allant) Amarillo
mgc (Graham) Centennial
pet lion (Peter) Glacier
GAM (Sandy) Mt Hood

Anybody else want in on this thing? DC? Delta Force (it was your idea guys - love to have you along)? Bueller? Bueller?

My buddy Jason (he is on the forum) may be in on this. I could give him some N-Brewer or if you want to ask for something different and available.


Sandy

[akr71]

My buddy Jason (he is on the forum) may be in on this. I could give him some N-Brewer or if you want to ask for something different and available.

Sandy

If Larry can switch to Cascade or Fuggles, that works.

Edit: DC had Wakatu in the recipe he posted. Is this what you are going to use Mr. Chicken?

[Dirt Chicken]

Yes, YES IT IS!!

[akr71]

OK after a flurry of PM's and posts and inconveniencing millions of electrons this morning, are we all in agreement - 94% 2Row/6% Crystal60 ??

Hops
SleepyJamie Chinook
Hogie (Aleanders) Centennial
Jeff Smith Nelson Sauvin
Andy/akr Simcoe
chalmers Willamette
Larry Cascade (you ok with this?)
LiverDance Polaris
Tim Gr Citra
Stu Tettnang
Tim G(allant) Amarillo
mgc (Graham) Columbus or Bramling Cross
pet lion (Peter) Glacier
GAM (Sandy) Mt Hood
Jason Northern Brewer
Dirt Chicken Wakatu

Here's the link again to the SS if you need/want to change:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... JNXc#gid=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Tim Gregory]

So now we should set a date for when these things need to be ready by.

[Graham.C]

Because of hoptoberfest and thanksgiving we might need to give a wider breadth in time for people to get brewing. I can probably brew next Monday, but it will depend on how work goes on Friday.

[sleepyjamie]

ill be in mexico and wont be able to brew until late october

[Graham.C]

Should we aim to have them done by the December meeting?

[TimG]

Cool! Nice job on hammering out the details guys.

If we aim for December meeting, I'll hold off brewing this right now as the hop aroma will be lacking by then. I'll just brew something else first!

[jeffsmith]

Should we aim to have them done by the December meeting?

I think that's likely the most reasonable date given that Hoptoberfest is this weekend and the following is Thanksgiving.

[Stusbrews]

So I take it we're going for 2oz at 0min, rather than ~15aau? (I dont really have a handle on this yet, so pls excuse my ignorance) and 152 is good for a mash temp?

[akr71]

So I take it we're going for 2oz at 0min, rather than ~15aau? (I dont really have a handle on this yet, so pls excuse my ignorance) and 152 is good for a mash temp?

Given that a 0min addition isn't going to give us any alpha acid/IBU contribution and that different hop varieties have differing amount of essential oils & whatever else influences aroma & flavor, I am happy with a 2oz charge at 0min.

Besides, we've all got different brewing systems, we'll all get different utilization. At the end of the day, these will be compared using something that is pretty subjective - taste buds. Just my $.02

Edit: December sounds like a great timeline!

[Graham.C]

Besides, we've all got different brewing systems, we'll all get different utilization. At the end of the day, these will be compared using something that is pretty subjective - taste buds. Just my $.02

Agreed, we shouldn't sweat the small stuff too much, but having an agreed upon common procedure is also not a horrible idea. We do want to minimize the differences as much as possible.

[GAM]

Should we aim to have them done by the December meeting?

You out of towners could could come in for "Christmas Shopping"

Sandy

[Graham.C]

Other then my exam days, or the days after when I am marking, I am really flexible in December.

Is it too late to switch from centennial to Bramling Cross? I really want to try some out.

[akr71]

No one else is down for Bramling, so I don't see it as a problem.

Maybe we could mark the spreadsheet when we've each done our brew so if we want to change our minds we know we won't be using a hop someone else already has.

[LiverDance]

Other then my exam days, or the days after when I am marking, I am really flexible in December.

Is it too late to switch from centennial to Bramling Cross? I really want to try some out.

you'll love them, I've done 2 esb's so far with all BC and it's a great hop! Very distinct

[Dirt Chicken]

and maybe for this particular meeting in december we all should bring a few/many bottles of this stuff, just so everyone can get a good taste for it- because this is the whole point, and probably won't get a good taste from a sipp with soo many subtle differences with the hops.

[LiverDance]

and maybe for this particular meeting in december we all should bring a few/many bottles of this stuff, just so everyone can get a good taste for it- because this is the whole point, and probably won't get a good taste from a sipp with soo many subtle differences with the hops.

good idea. There are 15 on the sheet, I could handle bringing a bottle for everyone to take home with them??