Advent #11 Root Beer "Stan Anise Brown Ale"

Post by **Jimmy** » Sat Nov 08, 2014 2:38 pm

Estimated OG: 1.042 SG
Estimated Color: 24.8 SRM
Estimated IBU: 18.2 IBUs
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) 72.7 %
Crystal 75, 2-Row, (Great Western) 10.1 %
Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) 6.4 %
Special Roast (50.0 SRM) 5.1 %
Pale Chocolate Malt (200.0 SRM) 3.7 %
Blackprinz Malt (500.0 SRM) 2.0 %
Goldings, East Kent [5.50 %] - Boil 60.0 Hop 18.2 IBUs
Anise, Star (Boil 30.0 mins) .60oz
SafAle English Ale (DCL/Fermentis #S-04) Yeast

Mash
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Name Description Step Temperature Step Time
Saccharification Add 54.87 l of water at 157.7 F 153.0 F 60 min

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:36 pm

Drinking this tonight Jimmy. I've tasted it before and it's well brewed, flavor and aroma haven't changed. Body seems better on this even tho it's the same batch. Possibly higher carbonation? Personally I'm not a black licorice fan. Aroma seems really inviting, but flavoring is different, almost seems like it could use more anise.

Hub Brewer · Post by **Hub Brewer** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 2:15 pm

I'm thoroughly enjoying this. Personally I wouldn't want any more anise, I like it in the background and find it just the right amount. That's me though. Thanks Jimmy.

jtmwhyte · Post by **jtmwhyte** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:32 pm

Hub Brewer wrote: Personally I wouldn't want any more anise, I like it in the background

Euphemism?

GuingesRock · Post by **GuingesRock** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:05 pm

I like the anise and also like the bitterness and also enjoying the beer.

Thanks for making something novel and interesting Jimmy. I'm learning a lot from this Advent thing about flavours.

Oddly interesting, and I finished the glass and want to have another ...oddly. I think it is well made.

Thanks.

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Post by **RubberToe** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:10 pm

Jimmy, great job on this beer!

I'm really enjoying it, the only problem is my glass is almost empty. I like it as is but also wouldn't mind seeing what it'd be like with more star anise.

Very quaffable.

One thing I do detect is a bit of carbonic acid. I only recognise it because I've strugled with this myself in the past.

-Rob

GuingesRock · Post by **GuingesRock** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:08 pm

Kathleen really likes it Jimmy, she's drinking the other 1/2 bottle, she says anise gives it a flavour that isn’t bitter but adds the same kind of depth that bitterness does.

jtmwhyte · Post by **jtmwhyte** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:16 pm

I'm in love with your Brown Anise!

jacinthebox · Post by **jacinthebox** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:21 pm

jtmwhyte wrote:I'm in love with your Brown Anise!

Ballon knot brown?

pet lion · Post by **pet lion** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:03 pm

I agree with Pete (Hub Brewer) on the anise level. As high as I would want to see it in this brew but providing a fantastic taste experience. Still fridge cold at the moment so looking forward to tasting it as it warms up a little. Nice carbonation but no head retention.

Great job Jimmy!
Would drink again.
And again.

Woody · Post by **Woody** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:25 pm

Carbonation was great and lacing really good. Smell is of licorice and taste was as well. Ive never has star anise before and found it very noticeable. My personal preference would be for a little less just so it was another layer of flavour but it's really good. Good job Jimmy. Thanks!

Post by **Jimmy** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:27 pm

Glad those of you who have posted about it have (maybe) enjoyed it

Post by **Jimmy** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:33 pm

RubberToe wrote:One thing I do detect is a bit of carbonic acid. I only recognise it because I've strugled with this myself in the past.

-Rob

Rob, I've never heard of this before; what is the cause? I did a quick google search, and it says that it's a "bite" to the beverage, but I'm not sure what causes it?

Personally, I'm really not a fan of the beer. I brewed it because I like black licorice and wanted to try something different - but it didnt turn out to be the beer I was hoping for.

jeffsmith · Post by **jeffsmith** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:07 am

I enjoyed it. Found the anise was at a great level, not sure if want any more.

Post by **RubberToe** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:52 am

Jimmy wrote:Rob, I've never heard of this before; what is the cause? I did a quick google search, and it says that it's a "bite" to the beverage, but I'm not sure what causes it?

In this case it was mild, not what I'd call a bite. I've had this same flavour in some of my brews (usually light bodied amber or light brown srm), and I've also had the bite. I'd describe the bite version as a kind of bitter astringency. I'd describe this one as a bit tinny or metalic. I could be wrong but in my experience I've associated this with carbonic acid.

I find this usually happens to some brews over time, kind of creeping in. I've held a personal theory it could be from setting your regulator at a decent carb level and your fridge doing wide temperture swings (from the point of view of the keg). CO2 disolves better at lower temps. I think a fan for air circulation helps, especially in my keezer crammed with 8 kegs.

Andrew, if you're reading this, do you remember the taste in your Scottish light a week or so after Hoptoberfest? That's the same as I detected here (this may be a bit less).

I hope this helps. I'm not the most experienced guy for describing flavours and this thing is also a bit elusive to me, still figuring it out.

amartin · Post by **amartin** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:10 pm

Yeah, I remember it. I thought it was just because it was a little overcarbonated, so we turned the gas down for a bit before bottling. I don't have any anymore to compare to, but the judges didn't say anything about carbonic acid when I sent it to Toronto (they had more to say about other things though). I'm drinking Jimmy's beer tonight, so I'll see if I can taste anything similar.

jacinthebox · Post by **jacinthebox** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:23 pm

got busy last night...will enjoy this evening

LiverDance · Post by **LiverDance** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:02 pm

Really enjoyed this beer Jimmy. Loved the anise flavor and aroma, smooth drinking and perfectly carbonated. Great beer

jacinthebox · Post by **jacinthebox** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:31 pm

This tasted like a very special brown...the anise adds the x factor...if this were in a bar on tap I would order more than one...great beer
carb level was great...head was thin but persistent...smelled awesome

Eric and I both enjoyed. ..thanks for sharing

amartin · Post by **amartin** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:43 pm

Ok, I taste it now. I'm tasting more of a bite than astringency. Not a whole lot, but it increases as it warms up. I like it though, it's an easy drinker without being boring.

HoweFox · Post by **HoweFox** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:58 pm

Thought this was really unique and interesting, but didn't really enjoy it. Thanks though for sharing something so original. Looks like many others did like it so I guess it is a personal preference thing.

chicanuck · Post by **chicanuck** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:22 pm

A very inviting pour, dark with a foamy head, sweet candy aroma. Well balanced and overall tasty brown ale, nice malt with mild sweetness, not normally a fan of Anise but I like this beer....well done.

CorneliusAlphonse · Post by **CorneliusAlphonse** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:08 pm

didnt like it quite as much as at the bn meeting in nov. not sure if anything actually changed about it though. i still enjoyed.

jmacdonald · Post by **jmacdonald** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:00 pm

I am a fan of licorice. Nice aroma, and great tasting, just a hint of licorice. Enjoyed it a lot.

mumblecrunch · Post by **mumblecrunch** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:56 pm

I am a big fan of anise as a flavoring and was looking forward to this. I thought the anise was at a good level -- you probably wouldn't want it any higher in a beer this small; maybe even a little lighter would have worked. It makes me wonder what it might taste like in a big beer like a baltic porter or a RIS, but using it in a mild was pretty ballsy. Nice beer.

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