I'd agree with that for sure. I think equipment selection all comes down to preference.CorneliusAlphonse wrote:I brewed an IPA last week,10 gallons, fifteen minutes to chill with my 25' immersion chiller, then gravity drain to fermentor. I figure 10 gallons is the break even point, where they take the same amount of time
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I've mentioned this one before, but I've had an immersion chiller, homemade counter flow, cheap 10-plate chiller and now Chillzilla counter flow.
While Chillzilla is great, if I was to do it all over again, I'd have an immersion chiller with a pump for circulation. Easy to clean, no worries on clogging and works well for 5 to 10g batches.
While Chillzilla is great, if I was to do it all over again, I'd have an immersion chiller with a pump for circulation. Easy to clean, no worries on clogging and works well for 5 to 10g batches.
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I still don`t know what to do. Considering my tap water is pretty cold, would a 10 plate chiller without a pump be enough to chill 15G of wort in less then 20 mins?
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If you decide to go this way in selling one...donking wrote:I still don`t know what to do. Considering my tap water is pretty cold, would a 10 plate chiller without a pump be enough to chill 15G of wort in less then 20 mins?
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Gravity chilling (ie with no pump) might be kinda slow
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Go with a counter flow. Easy to clean and sterilize, no clogs as longs as you use a pump. Sterilize during whirl pooling. 10 Gallon batch in less than 10 minutes to pitching temp.
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Try and sit in on a few brew days with different folks - you will quickly find out what you like and dislike before buying your gear.donking wrote:I still don`t know what to do. Considering my tap water is pretty cold, would a 10 plate chiller without a pump be enough to chill 15G of wort in less then 20 mins?
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Just received this from dave https://www.everwoodavebrewshop.com/pro ... 19-gallon/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; 3 piece ball valve with bazooka screen.
For wort chilling I am thinking of buying this:
https://www.canuckhomebrewsupply.com/co ... t-chiller/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
For the burner, this:
http://www.ontariobeerkegs.com/KAB6_Bay ... p/kab6.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Just trying to get the best deal out there for good gear.
For wort chilling I am thinking of buying this:
https://www.canuckhomebrewsupply.com/co ... t-chiller/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
For the burner, this:
http://www.ontariobeerkegs.com/KAB6_Bay ... p/kab6.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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If you are looking to spend less, and if you are handy at all, you should be able to build that chiller for a bit cheaper. I made a 25' counter flow with 3/8" copper (Rona) and 3/4" high temp rubber hose (Canadian Tire) along with some fittings for somewhere in the $75-$100 range after adding some fittings and such. Assembly was probably an hour at the most.donking wrote:Just received this from dave https://www.everwoodavebrewshop.com/pro ... 19-gallon/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; 3 piece ball valve with bazooka screen.
For wort chilling I am thinking of buying this:
https://www.canuckhomebrewsupply.com/co ... t-chiller/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
For the burner, this:
http://www.ontariobeerkegs.com/KAB6_Bay ... p/kab6.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Just trying to get the best deal out there for good gear.
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Things I need to build a counterflow wort chiller:
- http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/plumb ... UjSmpMW2O0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/yardw ... Ujex5MW2O0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.everwoodavebrewshop.com/pro ... iller-kit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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With the everwood kit you don't really need to solder. Also shop around for copper tubing, the price can vary.
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If you are still looking at a Banjo Cooker spend the extra few bucks and order the KAB6. I hated it at first but now I have in dialed in. I get two 10-12 gallons batches per 20 lbs tank and it heats up in no time. You have to put the propane cylinder in a bucket or old fermentation pale of water to prevent the burner from freezing up and flaming out . The 30 psi regulator sucks so much propane this will prevent that from happening. Also I bought a piece of aluminum to wrap around the pot. Surprisingly it doesn't melt or warp and cools quickly but this helped me block the wind and I get allot more mileage from a propane tank. I can get my well water from 10 C to strike temp in 10-15 mins. Also double batch brews days are much faster and getting things to a boil is easy.donking wrote:Thanks, now for a burner. I saw this online http://www.amazon.ca/Bayou-Classic-KAB4 ... you+burner" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; from the reviews and comments I saw this is a real beast. Would this be required for a 19G brew kettle of it's an overkill?
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Woody wrote:If you are still looking at a Banjo Cooker spend the extra few bucks and order the KAB6. I hated it at first but now I have in dialed in. I get two 10-12 gallons batches per 20 lbs tank and it heats up in no time. You have to put the propane cylinder in a bucket or old fermentation pale of water to prevent the burner from freezing up and flaming out . The 30 psi regulator sucks so much propane this will prevent that from happening. Also I bought a piece of aluminum to wrap around the pot. Surprisingly it doesn't melt or warp and cools quickly but this helped me block the wind and I get allot more mileage from a propane tank. I can get my well water from 10 C to strike temp in 10-15 mins. Also double batch brews days are much faster and getting things to a boil is easy.donking wrote:Thanks, now for a burner. I saw this online http://www.amazon.ca/Bayou-Classic-KAB4 ... you+burner" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; from the reviews and comments I saw this is a real beast. Would this be required for a 19G brew kettle of it's an overkill?
Thanks, yep the kab6 is the one I am buying since I will make 10-15g batches
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Derek able to show a pic with the aluminum shield setup?
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If you know of someone getting rid of a hot water heater, the outer skin of that makes a great wind blocker.
It is already semi-formed, but can be put flat for storage.
My dad had one kicking around, he cut a 3 foot high piece off for me, works great.
It is already semi-formed, but can be put flat for storage.
My dad had one kicking around, he cut a 3 foot high piece off for me, works great.
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I searched a long time on the internet for a high temp 3/4 inch hose, could not find any. maybe I just dont know how to searchLeafMan66_67 wrote:If you are looking to spend less, and if you are handy at all, you should be able to build that chiller for a bit cheaper. I made a 25' counter flow with 3/8" copper (Rona) and 3/4" high temp rubber hose (Canadian Tire) along with some fittings for somewhere in the $75-$100 range after adding some fittings and such. Assembly was probably an hour at the most.donking wrote:Just received this from dave https://www.everwoodavebrewshop.com/pro ... 19-gallon/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; 3 piece ball valve with bazooka screen.
For wort chilling I am thinking of buying this:
https://www.canuckhomebrewsupply.com/co ... t-chiller/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
For the burner, this:
http://www.ontariobeerkegs.com/KAB6_Bay ... p/kab6.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Just trying to get the best deal out there for good gear.
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I've been using standard braided hose for almost a year, no issues. I circulate boiling wort for about 10 minutes prior to turning the cooling water on, the hose hasn't even gone white on me yet. Should I ever experience some sort of failure of the hose, it's really no cost to replace it and it's readily available.
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I got mine at Princess Auto.donking wrote: I searched a long time on the internet for a high temp 3/4 inch hose, could not find any. maybe I just dont know how to search
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Me too. It's also available other places, aka Heater Hose.RubberToe wrote:I got mine at Princess Auto.donking wrote: I searched a long time on the internet for a high temp 3/4 inch hose, could not find any. maybe I just dont know how to search
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If you can't find it in the store, ask/give them the number from the website. They had to get it from out back when I bought it.
Not sure youd want to re-use the cooling water for brewing though.
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Yes sir! I'll dig it out after supper and upload a pic. It's nothing special but works great. I picked up a scrap piece at Kingston Aluminum here in Truro for 7 bucks.Keith wrote:Derek able to show a pic with the aluminum shield setup?
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Thanks guys!
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Keith as requested! My 19 gallon pot was in use so I threw my 15 gallon one on for optics. I use two clothes pins to clip the aluminum sheet together in the front so I can read the thermometer. Like I mentioned in the pervious post the aluminum doesn't warp or melt which surprised me. It cools off within a few mins and will save you money on propane. For those not familiar with this beast the KAB6 throws out 210,000 btu's and might seem like overkill but a 3.5 to 4 hour brew day for a 6 gallon batch speaks for itself. I rarely turn in up past half way. The larger batches don't take that much longer to heat up. 
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Can`t wait to order that beast hehe
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OBK has free shipping if you spend $200, your order weighs less than 40 lbs and is in one box. I'm sure you could fill the basket with a few more items.
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Yep that`s the plan 
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