Advent #16 India Saison

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Advent #16 India Saison

Post by pet lion » Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:56 pm

India Saison

OG 1.060
FG 1.003
ABV 7.5%

3.25 kg German Pilsner malt (52%)
2.50 kg Vienna malt (40%)
0.50 kg Flaked Barley (8%)

Mash schedule: Single infusion, light body
148F for 1 hour

15 g Magnum (14% AA) @ 60 min
20 g Centennial (9.5% AA) @ 20 min
30 g Centennial (9.5% AA) @ 10 min
60 g Centennial (9.5% AA) @ 1 min

60 g Centennial dry hop

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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by jeffsmith » Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:17 am

If love to do a side by side tasting of your Saison and mine. Thankfully I have lots left in tap! Looking forward to it.

Very interested in how 3711 deals with hops vs. the Wallonian strain.
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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by pet lion » Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:49 am

I don't have a lot left of mine but will try to keep a bottle to compare with yours as well. :cheers:
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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by GasMD30 » Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:12 pm

I'm assuming "India" due to the high IBU's?
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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by pet lion » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:49 pm

GasMD30 wrote:I'm assuming "India" due to the high IBU's?
Not just IBUs but how much hops were added. Late additions don't add much bitterness but loads of flavour.Somewhat reasonable IBUs if the calculations are anywhere accurate. The idea I went with is hopped heavily with North American hops (pretty much Centennial) but the grain bill and yeast selection being close to a siason style yeast but with a stronger
'IPA level' alcohol percent than traditional saisons.
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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by Keith » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:30 am

I'm looking forward to this one Peter. Is gonna be a tasty sob
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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by Keith » Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:55 pm

Derek was over and figure I'd share this with him. This works great. Loving this beer, definitely need to brew this for next years advent peter! This has set the bar. :rockin:

Farmhouse & Hops work amazing together. :banana:
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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by GasMD30 » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:08 pm

Keith wrote:This has set the bar. :rockin:

Farmhouse & Hops work amazing together. :banana:
Did he invent a new-BJCP style?
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Post by Keith » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:44 pm

Possibly
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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by LeafMan66_67 » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:58 pm

Keith wrote:Derek was over and figure I'd share this with him. This works great. Loving this beer, definitely need to brew this for next years advent peter! This has set the bar. :rockin:

Farmhouse & Hops work amazing together. :banana:
Definitely a nice brew. Carbonation spot on, great hop presence, dry finish. Definitely enjoyed the sample. Thanks to Keith for sharing.
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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by GuingesRock » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:22 pm

This one is up tonight. :rockin:

Going to learn all about centennial. The malt bill looks nice.
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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by GuingesRock » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:24 pm

So That's what a saison tastes like! I like it. Nice bitterness too, my lupulin shift just shifted a bit more, it was starting to slip back. Very nice, is there a slight musty taste at the end? I don't know the style or the hops.

Kathleen likes this one too.

Thanks Peter

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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by RubberToe » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:07 pm

Peter, this beer is fucking excellent.

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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by LiverDance » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:23 pm

Tasty beer Pete, I love me some centennial hops. What's making this bad boy so dark? I made a 100% Vienna beer that wasn't this dark? Just curious that's all. I'll shut up and keep drinking now :)
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Post by RubberToe » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:18 pm

LiverDance wrote:Tasty beer Pete, I love me some centennial hops. What's making this bad boy so dark? I made a 100% Vienna beer that wasn't this dark? Just curious that's all. I'll shut up and keep drinking now :)
Brian, I was also thinking this is pretty dark for that much Vienna.
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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

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LeafMan66_67 wrote:
Keith wrote:Derek was over and figure I'd share this with him. This works great. Loving this beer, definitely need to brew this for next years advent peter! This has set the bar. :rockin:

Farmhouse & Hops work amazing together. :banana:
Definitely a nice brew. Carbonation spot on, great hop presence, dry finish. Definitely enjoyed the sample. Thanks to Keith for sharing.
Very kind words. Glad you fellows enjoyed it!

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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by pet lion » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:49 pm

GuingesRock wrote:So That's what a saison tastes like!
Well, a hopped up and high alcohol version of saison. You should get your lips on a Dupont Saison for a better understanding of the style, though it is rather open to a wide variety of malt, adjunct and hop options.
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Post by bluenose » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:50 pm

I don't know what it is or where it went in such a hurry, but I liked it! :thumbup:
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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by dexter » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:33 am

I liked this one a lot! Nice job!!
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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by akr71 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:07 pm

Really enjoyed this. Could have sworn that I got ginger on the first sip or two, but recipe says no and my taste buds smartened up further into the glass. Great hop aromas and flavors, but the belgian (french) character from the yeast started to shine as I let it warm up.
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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by chicanuck » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:04 pm

A very tasty beer, I don't recall having anything quite like this one. I love the hopped up Centennial shot to the senses but it has the farmhouse tarty nonsense going on, very interesting and enjoyable. :rockin:
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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by gm- » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:29 pm

Mine had good hop flavour, but had very low carbonation and some strange cloyingly sweet aftertaste. I think my bottle was probably off :(

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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by pet lion » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:22 pm

Ah, that sucks your bottle was off Jon (gm-). I usually am careful to double check bottles for proper capping.

Really don't know why the colour of the beer is this dark. Flaked Barley shouldn't be adding much colour, less than the Vienna or the Pilsner according to BeerSmith.
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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by Woody » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:40 pm

Delicious! Really enjoying this one. Thanks!
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Re: Advent #16 India Saison

Post by jmacdonald » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:25 pm

Enjoying this one tonight too. Going down pretty quick!
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