Kolsch & Saison from same wort

[RubberToe]

Hey everyone,

I'm planning on brewing a double batch and splitting the wort into a Kolsch and Saison. Belle Saison yeast and probably just US-05 for the kolsch.

Right now I'm thinking of this for the grain bill:

OG: 1.050 - 1.052
80% pilsner malt
10% wheat malt
10% Vienna malt

For the hops mostly Hallertau Tradition plus a bit of Styrian Goldings to get rid of them, 30 - 35 IBU with a small amount of late hops.

What do you think of this concept? I think it might work out.

-Rob

[Woody]

US05 for a Kolsh? Maybe Dave has a WLP029 or NG a Wyeast 2565.

[CorneliusAlphonse]

yeah us05 might make a light american pilsner or something, not really a kolsch. probably still a tasty light beer tho.

[LeafMan66_67]

While the US05 isn't a kolsch yeast, it is listed as a sub in the BCS recipe. I've used it and it does make a tasty kolsch "style" brew, fairly clear and crisp, just not really a kolsch. I like the concept of splitting the batch into a saison and a kolsch - looks good.

[jeffsmith]

Looks good to me.

[RubberToe]

Yeah, what leafman said. Not the same yeast character but clean at least. I'd prefer a kolsch or German ale yeast but given a tight timeframe this may have to do.

[mr x]

Pitch high, oxygenate high, and ferment in the mid/low 50's. I'd mash low too, sure you have that covered anyway.

[RubberToe]

Yup.

[Keith]

Yeah, what leafman said. Not the same yeast character but clean at least. I'd prefer a kolsch or German ale yeast but given a tight timeframe this may have to do.

I have a vial of kolsch yeast in the fridge if you want to pop out Rob.

[GAM]

Are you in Hfx today?

I may have Kolsh.

Sandy

[RubberToe]

Are you in Hfx today?

I may have Kolsh.

Sandy

I'm in Bedford but thanks for the offer.

[Keith]

Are you in Hfx today?

I may have Kolsh.

Sandy

I'm in Bedford but thanks for the offer.

I'm in Sackville, 10 min away, come get the yeast!

[RubberToe]

I have a vial of kolsch yeast in the fridge if you want to pop out Rob.

Tempting offer... Not brewing until next week though.

You're home today?

[Keith]

Yep. Up for a coffee?

[RubberToe]

I'm heading out that way at lunch to help someone move a car, PM time.

[GasMD30]

This is a good link about Saisons and their yeastie beasties

http://www.themadfermentationist.com/20 ... house.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[gm-]

Sounds pretty good, I was thinking about doing my "good beer for people who like bad beer" cream ale double batch next weekend and using US-05 in one and Saison II in the other.

[RubberToe]

Shout out to Keith for being awesome. I now have some kolsch yeast.

This brew is on deck.

[Keith]

Shout out to Keith for being awesome. I now have some kolsch yeast.

This brew is on deck.