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CIP Pump

Post by Jimmy » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:18 pm

I tried searching but couldn't come up with anything.

Anyone have any recommendations for a CIP pump? Anything local?

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Post by mr x » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:23 pm

March not good enough?

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Re: CIP Pump

Post by Jimmy » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:24 pm

From what I've read they aren't. Some people say they are using them with success, but the general consensus is that they are under-powered for the job.

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Re: CIP Pump

Post by mr x » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:28 pm

All you need to do is coat the surfaces, you aren't power blasting the dirt off.

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Post by Keggermeister » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:48 pm

Mine is a 1/2 or 1/3 hp centrifugal pump, all stainless. 1 1/2" in 1" out.
I got it off ebay for $50 years ago.

A pony pump at princess auto may do the trick. They are pretty cheap, and if it doesn't cut it just take it back.
A lot of people use submersible sump pumps too. They won't likely stand up to harsh caustics, acids and heat though.

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Re: CIP Pump

Post by mr x » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:51 pm

I have been running pretty strong acid and caustic through my submersible little giant, but I have no idea how long it is going to last...

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Post by RubberToe » Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:44 pm

1/4 hp Princess Auto submersible pump here. I got it on sale for $60-$70. It works really good for keg and carboy washing but I haven't run it through a spray ball yet. I expect it will be just fine. I don't use hot caustic btw.
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Re: CIP Pump

Post by mr x » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:45 am

Jimmy wrote:Some people say they are using them with success
Do what these people do. :-)

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Re: CIP Pump

Post by Jimmy » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:44 pm

This is the only example of a spray ball I can find that might work with the March pump (both videos are using the March pump). From the reading I've been doing it sounds like the sump pumps can actually leak oils because of their low temperature rating...not something I'm interested in..

It's a spray ball from McMaster-Carr 71445T84




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Post by Keggermeister » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:19 pm

That's the same ball I use. It works well, and fits in a carboy.

Another note, ball lock connectors do not last any amount of time in caustic. I ended up buying the stainless ones after I got tired of replacing them.

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Re: CIP Pump

Post by Jimmy » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:05 pm

Keggermeister wrote:That's the same ball I use. It works well, and fits in a carboy.

Another note, ball lock connectors do not last any amount of time in caustic. I ended up buying the stainless ones after I got tired of replacing them.
Where did you get them?

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Post by Keggermeister » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:25 pm

OBK. Expensive as all get out!

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Re: CIP Pump

Post by Jimmy » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:26 pm

Yeah, they don't sell them anymore. Still comes up on google, but when you try and add to cart it says they aren't available.

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Post by GAM » Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:55 pm

Jim, order me one when you find them.

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Re: CIP Pump

Post by AllanMar » Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:07 pm

I've got one of these comming for my keg/carboy washer.
http://www.brewershardware.com/Rotating ... ction.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I doubt it would work as good with a march pump tho, but I can give it a try when I have it.

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Post by RubberToe » Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:15 pm

AllanMar wrote:I've got one of these comming for my keg/carboy washer.
http://www.brewershardware.com/Rotating ... ction.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I doubt it would work as good with a march pump tho, but I can give it a try when I have it.
I'm ordering one of those too, with a bunch of TC hardware the day my conical arrives.
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Re: CIP Pump

Post by jeffsmith » Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:36 pm

RubberToe wrote:I'm ordering one of those too, with a bunch of TC hardware the day my conical arrives.
Same here.

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Re: CIP Pump

Post by mr x » Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:41 pm

FWIW, I have been using pretty aggressive caustic and acids with my plastic ball locks with no sign of failure. If you guys are planning an order, think about getting together for some stuff. I might want something there as well.
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Post by Keggermeister » Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:29 pm

mr x wrote:FWIW, I have been using pretty aggressive caustic and acids with my plastic ball locks with no sign of failure. If you guys are planning an order, think about getting together for some stuff. I might want something there as well.
I use ZEP CIP Caustic cleaner, and get about three runs to a set of connectors. Maybe it's the heat?

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Re: CIP Pump

Post by mr x » Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:30 pm

What part is failing? Are they the plastic connectors? I use tap water heat level.
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Post by Keggermeister » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:27 pm

mr x wrote:What part is failing? Are they the plastic connectors? I use tap water heat level.
The plastic usually fails around the barb. Now that i think a minute about metal expansion in hard plastics... it is the heat.
I run my washer at 180++ Degrees.

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Post by bluenose » Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:33 pm

AllanMar wrote:I've got one of these comming for my keg/carboy washer.
http://www.brewershardware.com/Rotating ... ction.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I doubt it would work as good with a march pump tho, but I can give it a try when I have it.
Is that the best source for the spray ball? I'm thinking about putting together a keg/carboy washer and I think that'd be the cat's ass. I can't seem find any other place to get one
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Re: CIP Pump

Post by Keggermeister » Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:44 pm

bluenose wrote:
AllanMar wrote:I've got one of these comming for my keg/carboy washer.
http://www.brewershardware.com/Rotating ... ction.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I doubt it would work as good with a march pump tho, but I can give it a try when I have it.
Is that the best source for the spray ball? I'm thinking about putting together a keg/carboy washer and I think that'd be the cat's ass. I can't seem find any other place to get one
http://www.gwkent.com/cip-miniature-pvd ... zzles.html

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Re: CIP Pump

Post by bluenose » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:06 am

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