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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by mr x » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:46 am

I've had just enough hops to be practical to cut the hops off and leave the bines up.
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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by HopGrower » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:58 am

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HopGrower - where are you growing those?
The 1st year Nuggets, Galenas, and Mt Hoods are here in Lantz, while the 2nd year Cascades and Fuggles are on the farm near Antigonish.
amartin wrote:That's a pretty sweet setup, how many plants is that? I hope you'll have some help when you go to harvest them starting year.

New harvesting question, what do you guys do with your plants after the harvest? I know the commercial growers will cut them down to the ground, but that just doesn't sound like what's best for the plants. Mine are still around 12 feet tall, I cut off the horizontal part and the side branches from the vertical part. I always cut them to the ground in the fall, save for a few inches to tie next year's trellis to, but I never know what to do until then.
15 each of the cascade and fuggles, then 10 rhizomes each of the nuggets, galenas, and mt hoods.

Cut the bines off at harvest, they're going to die off in the fall anyway. I've heard if you plant the cut-off bines in the fall (while still fresh) and cover them in straw/mulch/etc for the winter, they'll turn into rhizomes and sprout in the spring though I've never tried it.

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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by Jayme » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:26 am

HopGrower wrote:Cut the bines off at harvest, they're going to die off in the fall anyway. I've heard if you plant the cut-off bines in the fall (while still fresh) and cover them in straw/mulch/etc for the winter, they'll turn into rhizomes and sprout in the spring though I've never tried it.
I did try that one year and they just rotted in the ground. May not have done it right though.
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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by wortly » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:30 am

For first year plants, just let them die back to send stuff back to the roots. For 2 yr.+ plants just cut them off.

You should be pruning off the first flush of shoots when they are 4-6" tall in the springtime anyway (even a bit later if you think you have downy mildew); string the tallest of the second flush when they are ~18".

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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by amartin » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:15 pm

I've never cut off the first round of shoots, but I may try that next year. I've heard of southern growers letting them get several feet up before cutting them back, just because they'll taste grassy if harvested too early.

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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by Jayme » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:40 pm

You shouldn't cut back first year plants at all, but once they are established to reach maximum yield you should cut back the first growth and limit the number of bines on the second growth to 2 or 3. It would be interesting though to try picking your main bines from the first growth vs. second growth if you have 2 of the same variety/age and compare the final results.
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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by homebrewcrew » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:58 pm

Will post some pics of my plants when I get home. I planted my hop cuttings in between the grape vines because I assumed they would not grow that big or tall this year. Boy was I wrong :lol:
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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by Jayme » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:09 pm

These are my 3rd year Nuggets.
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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by homebrewcrew » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:14 pm

very nice
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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by wortly » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:39 pm

Nice cones, they are huge. How many plants are in that pic?

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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by Jayme » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:47 pm

It's just one. There are others but they are in a different spot.
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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by Dirt Chicken » Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:27 pm

Cascade!!!
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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by amartin » Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:31 pm

That's going to take awhile to harvest.

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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by Dirt Chicken » Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:39 pm

already done!! I want to do a fruity ipa with galaxy if i can, and use the cascade for later additions. Anyone have a recipe i can work with, using galaxy or citra and cascade?? I liked the one that Ryantron brought to the last meeting, i believe it was all galaxy. Either way a big Ipa using lots of cascade will suffice, but i want fruity sweet notes to be able to take lots of cascade wet hops. any suggestions will be of course, awesome !!

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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by sleepyjamie » Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:53 pm

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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by RubberToe » Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:49 pm

Great work guys!

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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by Jayme » Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:00 pm

Dirt Chicken wrote:I liked the one that Ryantron brought to the last meeting, i believe it was all galaxy.
He said it was a clone recipe from Aus or maybe NZ (I can't remember that part), all Galaxy, added pretty much every step along the way (mash & fwh as well). 50% 2-row, 50% wheat. That is enough to get you in the ballpark I would imagine if you wanted to brew something similar.
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Re: Let's see your cones!

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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by mr x » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:43 pm

Nice!

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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by wortly » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:55 pm

Beauties! I have heard that there was a wall of green going on out there. Looking forward to seeing them in a couple of days. Good work!
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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by LiverDance » Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:30 am

My plant seems to be dying from the bottom up, must be some kind of bugs. Looks like no hops this year. :(
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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by mr x » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:36 am

The plants tend to drop leaves from the bottom first.

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Post by HopGrower » Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:43 pm

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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by RubberToe » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:29 pm

Left, fuggles. Right, cascade. I have only a few Mt Hood to pick next.



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Re: Let's see your cones!

Post by Jayme » Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:40 pm

Looking good!
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