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Whirlpool Hopping/Hop Stands

Post by GuingesRock » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:57 am

I've ordered the stuff to fix up my kettle for whirlpooling. I'm doing it for whirlpool chilling and trub management ...and also whirlpool hopping.

The complicated thing that I need to research more is whirlpool hopping.

Any advice or good links on whirlpools and whirlpool hopping please.

Edit: found a good one: http://byo.com/component/k2/item/2808-hop-stands" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Whirlpool Hopping/Hop Stands

Post by GuingesRock » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:36 am

Does anyone do hop stands, or is it all hype?

I read this morning that it is "better than dry hopping" ?

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Re: Whirlpool Hopping/Hop Stands

Post by LiverDance » Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:13 am

I've just started trying this and have been getting pretty good results. I'll have another beer to try on Friday that was no chilled with hops after KO as well.
"Twenty years ago — a time, by the way, that hops such as Simcoe and Citra were already being developed, but weren’t about to find immediate popularity — there wasn’t a brewer on earth who would have gone to the annual Hop Growers of American convention and said, “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.” - Bell’s Brewery Director of Operations John Mallet on the scent of their popular Hopslam.

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Re: Whirlpool Hopping/Hop Stands

Post by GuingesRock » Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:26 am

LiverDance wrote:I've just started trying this and have been getting pretty good results. I'll have another beer to try on Friday that was no chilled with hops after KO as well.
How have you been doing it?

I've been thinking of chilling to 175F (the sub-isomerization range) and then adding the hops and whirlpooling them for 30 minutes before chilling to pitching temp. I was thinking at that temp DMS production and also isomerisation of alpha acids won't occur and I'd be getting more essential oils.
A hop stand in the 160–170 °F (71–77 °C) range will basically shut down the alpha acid isomerization reaction and the lower temperatures will reduce the vaporization of the essential oils. Homebrewers can use their wort chillers to bring the wort down to this range before adding the knockout hops or they can add a second dose of knockout hops. http://byo.com/component/k2/item/2808-hop-stands" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Whirlpool Hopping/Hop Stands

Post by LiverDance » Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:50 am

The first one I done was the big spruce IPA and I let it whirlpool for 30mins and set my temp to 180 on my PID. I also dry hopped that beer 3 times so i'm not really sure what I got out of the hop stand in the end besides a good IPA. On Saturday I'm going to do my house IPA with the same method without any dry hopping so I can actually see what i'm getting from the stand.
"Twenty years ago — a time, by the way, that hops such as Simcoe and Citra were already being developed, but weren’t about to find immediate popularity — there wasn’t a brewer on earth who would have gone to the annual Hop Growers of American convention and said, “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.” - Bell’s Brewery Director of Operations John Mallet on the scent of their popular Hopslam.

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Re: Whirlpool Hopping/Hop Stands

Post by GuingesRock » Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:02 pm

Great, thanks, roughly what I was going to do ...great minds. :)
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