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Post by Tim Gregory » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:33 pm

I had my first full-batch drain pour this Saturday... :cry: :thumbdown:

It was a total disaster of a beer so now I'm trying to figure out what went wrong.

It was a simple little stout - OG 1.044. Grain bill was Maris Otter (~85%) , Chocolate Malt (7.5%) , and Roasted Barley (7.5%). It was only about 3 gallons. I pitched a fresh smackpack of Wyeast 1084 (Irish Ale). I didn't do a starter as the gravity was low and the batch was small. Mash was about 75mins at the mid-temp range. I don't have my notes here at the moment but around 67C.

So 2 weeks in I racked it off the yeast cake assuming it would have been well fermented out. I checked the gravity and it was only at 1.024. Not nearly what I would have expected. I racked it back onto the yeast and agitated it a bit to try to get it going. Nothing happened so I added a pack of Danstar Windsor and still no effect. About a week later it had picked up a white film and some funky looking bubbly blooms of grossness. Gravity didn't really change after a few weeks of that, but it was tasting a little off. I considered holding on to it for a while to see what it would turn into but wanted to clear up some space, so I just dumped it.

Anyway, I think it picked up the infection from being racked in and out of the fermenter somewhere, but I have no clue why it was so under-attenuated. The only thing I would guess is that the Marris Otter was fairly old. Would that affect attenuation?

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Post by amartin » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:43 pm

Did you do an iodine test? I'm sure after 75 minutes it should have been converted, but I've found British malts to be a little slower sometimes in the mash tun. I can't think of why the age of the malt should affect attenuation.

How fast did your smack pack bloat?

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Post by BBrianBoogie » Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:22 pm

My money would be on expired/old yeast, but you said it was a fresh pack right? The lag on a solid fermentation might have given something else a chance to take hold.
Also, are you sure your thermometer is somewhat accurate? Maybe you mashed just out of conversion range, or at least at the top end of it?

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Re: Sad day

Post by Tim Gregory » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:40 am

Yeah I think you might have nailed it with the thermometer. I had been using a new one that was a little on the cheap side. My good original one had gotten wet and wasn't working very well. My last few beers have all finished a bit high, although other than the stout they were all ok.

My good old one seems to have recovered and I used it this weekend so I'll see how that beer finishes. I should try them together and see how far off the new one is from the good one.

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Re: Sad day

Post by mr x » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:32 pm

I stopped using 1084 because it would never attenuate good for me at all. I also don't have any luck repitching a pack of yeast straight into a beer that's been fermented that far. The only thing I have heard of working is racking onto a fresh yeastcake of a different and more attenuative strain. I think the iodine test might be hard on a stout.
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