Single Hop Tasting - Jan 19th

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What should the hopping schedule be?

bittering (60min), flavouring (20min), aroma (0min)
15
56%
first wort, 20min, 0min
1
4%
let's go nuts: first wort, 20min, 15min, 10min, 5min, 2min, 0min
10
37%
other
1
4%
 
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Re: Meeting Idea

Post by Dirt Chicken » Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:42 pm

mgc wrote:Me too. What level of crystal is medium 40 or 60?
medium is 60L I believe

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Post by jeffsmith » Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:44 pm

mgc wrote:Me too. What level of crystal is medium 40 or 60?
Personally I'd take that to mean anything between 40 and 75, but that's just me.

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Re: Meeting Idea

Post by LeafMan66_67 » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:09 pm

At Noble Grape, medium is 60.
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Re: Meeting Idea

Post by akr71 » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:18 pm

I'd suggest 60 if you've got it, the closest thing you've got if you don't. At 6% of the grain bill, I don't think the difference between 40 & 75 is enough to skew the results. This is about the hops after all.

I like LD's suggested hop bill.
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Re: Meeting Idea

Post by GAM » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:50 pm

Does this look OK.

20 liters
Color: 16 HCU (~10 SRM)
Bitterness: 48 IBU
OG: 1.055 FG: 1.010
Alcohol: 5.7% v/v (4.5% w/w)
Grain: 4.75kg American 2-row
300g American crystal 60L
25g Roasted barley
Mash: 70% efficiency
Boil: minutes SG 1.050 22 liters
Hops: 70g Mt. Hood (4.5% AA, 60 min.)
30g Mt. Hood (4.5% AA, 30 min.)
60g Mt. Hood (aroma)

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Re: Meeting Idea

Post by LiverDance » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:54 pm

GAM wrote:Does this look OK.

20 liters
Color: 16 HCU (~10 SRM)
Bitterness: 48 IBU
OG: 1.055 FG: 1.010
Alcohol: 5.7% v/v (4.5% w/w)
Grain: 4.75kg American 2-row
300g American crystal 60L
25g Roasted barley
Mash: 70% efficiency
Boil: minutes SG 1.050 22 liters
Hops: 70g Mt. Hood (4.5% AA, 60 min.)
30g Mt. Hood (4.5% AA, 30 min.)
60g Mt. Hood (aroma)

Sandy
change the 30 min to 20 min addition and it's right on what we are shooting for.
Last edited by LiverDance on Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"Twenty years ago — a time, by the way, that hops such as Simcoe and Citra were already being developed, but weren’t about to find immediate popularity — there wasn’t a brewer on earth who would have gone to the annual Hop Growers of American convention and said, “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.” - Bell’s Brewery Director of Operations John Mallet on the scent of their popular Hopslam.

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Re: Meeting Idea

Post by Dirt Chicken » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:58 pm

Hows this look?
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Boil Size: 28.71 l
Post Boil Volume: 26.82 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 22.00 l
Bottling Volume: 19.16 l
Estimated OG: 1.056 SG
Estimated Color: 16.0 EBC
Estimated IBU: 48.0 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 82.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
5500.00 g Pale Malt (2 Row) US (3.9 EBC) Grain 1 94.4 %
300.00 g Crystal Malt - 60L (Thomas Fawcett) (118 Grain 2 5.2 %
25.00 g Roasted Barley (591.0 EBC) Grain 3 0.4 %
49.25 g Wakatu [7.60 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 36.6 IBUs
25.25 g Wakatu [7.60 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 5 11.4 IBUs
60.00 g Wakatu [7.60 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 6 0.0 IBUs

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Post by LiverDance » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:09 pm

Looks good. I'm guessing you guys are adding the roast barley for a little color?
"Twenty years ago — a time, by the way, that hops such as Simcoe and Citra were already being developed, but weren’t about to find immediate popularity — there wasn’t a brewer on earth who would have gone to the annual Hop Growers of American convention and said, “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.” - Bell’s Brewery Director of Operations John Mallet on the scent of their popular Hopslam.

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Re: Meeting Idea

Post by hogie » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:10 pm

That amount of roasted barley (~0.5%) is negligible. Let's go with ~5% ABV, ~50IBU (60/20min split as per LD), 50g at flame-out, 5% Crystal 60 and 95% 2-row.

Also, I see there are people chiming into this thread, who haven't filled out their names/hop options on the spreadsheet.

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Post by LiverDance » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:11 pm

I'm also assuming that we are all using US-05 or 1056 yeast for this brew?
"Twenty years ago — a time, by the way, that hops such as Simcoe and Citra were already being developed, but weren’t about to find immediate popularity — there wasn’t a brewer on earth who would have gone to the annual Hop Growers of American convention and said, “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.” - Bell’s Brewery Director of Operations John Mallet on the scent of their popular Hopslam.

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Post by jeffsmith » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:14 pm

I would think any of the neutral American Ale yeasts would be fine: US-05, 1056, 1272, WLP001, WLP051.

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Post by jeffsmith » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:14 pm

When are we aiming to have these brews done and ready for consumption? I can't see myself getting a brew day in until the first weekend in October at the earliest.

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Post by hogie » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:16 pm

I'd like to brew this on the weekend. The timing would be ideal for me anyway...

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Re: Meeting Idea

Post by jeffsmith » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:34 pm

hogie wrote:I'd like to brew this on the weekend. The timing would be ideal for me anyway...
I'd like to as well, but with Hoptoberfest, I doubt I'd get a chance.

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Post by Dirt Chicken » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:37 pm

Forecast calls for rain for Sunday thru Monday...

so I suppose you could rig up some kind of keggle-unbrella with some duct tape and a bit'o' sweat!

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Post by akr71 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:24 pm

hogie wrote:Also, I see there are people chiming into this thread, who haven't filled out their names/hop options on the spreadsheet.
Yes, that's the last piece we need to hammer out. Who's using what? SS in on pg 3 of this thread, if you missed it.
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Post by GAM » Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:34 pm

I'll be next week.

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Post by Graham.C » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:17 pm

akr71 wrote:
hogie wrote:Also, I see there are people chiming into this thread, who haven't filled out their names/hop options on the spreadsheet.
Yes, that's the last piece we need to hammer out. Who's using what? SS in on pg 3 of this thread, if you missed it.
I'll check my freezer when I get home and fill out what I have to use up.
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Re: Meeting Idea

Post by akr71 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:06 pm

A question - if we are adding our hop additions to reach certain IBU levels, then shouldn't we have our brewing software all set to the same algorithm (Tinseth, Rager or Garetz)? Does anyone use anything other than Tinseth?

We could also go by AAU per addition (oz x AA)
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Post by Stusbrews » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:57 pm

I like the aau proposition, simply because of the flameout addition. 2 oz of saaz is a whole lot diff than 2 oz of challenger for example.

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Post by TimG » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:58 am

Would like in on this, added my name to the spreadsheet.

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Post by GAM » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:52 pm

Please add me with Mount Hood.

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Post by pet lion » Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:04 pm

Sounds fun. Added myself in.
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Post by GAM » Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:12 am

Northern Brewer can be my #2.

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Re: Meeting Idea

Post by TimG » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:31 am

Ok folks, I'm not sure who is driving this bus but it seems some folks would like to brew this weekend (me included). Can we agree on;

Two options;

1) 92% 2 row / 8% 60L
2) 90% 2 row / 8% 60L / 2% Melanoidin

Just because I like using some Mela.. ha

As far as who get's first dibs on hops, that'll be trickier. Though if two people make the same thing, that's fine too I think (just as long as most folks are different). Could go with 'first come first serve' from the spreadsheet. Would be good for folks near the top to highlight / lock in the hops they intend to use so folks farther down can decide appropriately. Shall we set a 'deadline' for hop selection. Say Friday night?

Tim

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