Loss of hop flavour

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Loss of hop flavour

Post by Tony L » Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:36 pm

I made a nice APA with Chinook a few months ago and kegged it. This week I drew off a 2 liter bottle
to bring to a tasting with Chalmers and a few friends. The flavour and most of the aroma I had when I
kegged it was gone in the 2 months in keg. I was disappointed, but will do what Chalmers said to do..
dry hop it.

How long do anyone keep a keg before tapping it, and do they notice a hop flavour loss with it?

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Re: Loss of hop flavour

Post by mr x » Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:02 pm

Man, I've kept kegs of beers that should be hoppy for 'way too long', 6-9 months, just because of backlog...but I always hit those long sitting kegs with dry hops in the keg, as many hops as I can get in there. Seems to work for me.
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Re: Loss of hop flavour

Post by Tony L » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:28 pm

Well I was just filling a 2 liter PET bottle of APA to bring around the bay with me this weekend when that keg kicked.
So now I have that Chinook keg tapped and I'll leave it as is for now.
Good news is that I'll be brewing this Sunday... an extra hopped Chinook APA. I'll choke enough hops into the brew
to keep for a few months this time, and I'll throw in extra dry hops too.
Win win.

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Re: Loss of hop flavour

Post by NASH » Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:33 pm

Hop flavour is always the first thing to go, unless.... you use a LOT of hops :lol: :lol: Then they'll hold that fresh hoppy flavour for a good few months if kept cold and there's not too much dissolved O2 in solution :cheers2:

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Re: Loss of hop flavour

Post by LiverDance » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:25 am

NASH wrote:Hop flavour is always the first thing to go, unless.... you use a LOT of hops :lol: :lol: Then they'll hold that fresh hoppy flavour for a good few months if kept cold and there's not too much dissolved O2 in solution :cheers2:
This is interesting. So it would be better to not carb the beer until you are going to serve?
"Twenty years ago — a time, by the way, that hops such as Simcoe and Citra were already being developed, but weren’t about to find immediate popularity — there wasn’t a brewer on earth who would have gone to the annual Hop Growers of American convention and said, “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.” - Bell’s Brewery Director of Operations John Mallet on the scent of their popular Hopslam.

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Re: Loss of hop flavour

Post by Jimmy » Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:45 pm

LiverDance wrote:
NASH wrote:Hop flavour is always the first thing to go, unless.... you use a LOT of hops :lol: :lol: Then they'll hold that fresh hoppy flavour for a good few months if kept cold and there's not too much dissolved O2 in solution :cheers2:
This is interesting. So it would be better to not carb the beer until you are going to serve?
I wouldn't think so, unless you're carbing with O2? :transformer:

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Re: Loss of hop flavour

Post by KitrGy » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:02 pm

Lol Which I. Hope not. I think carbon with O2 wouldn't go so well. :shitstorm:

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Re: Loss of hop flavour

Post by NASH » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:40 pm

LiverDance wrote:
NASH wrote:Hop flavour is always the first thing to go, unless.... you use a LOT of hops :lol: :lol: Then they'll hold that fresh hoppy flavour for a good few months if kept cold and there's not too much dissolved O2 in solution :cheers2:
This is interesting. So it would be better to not carb the beer until you are going to serve?
Dissolved O2 = oxygen. O2 pickup during the brewing process will kill any beer prematurely, even hops can't cover that up :cheers2:

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Re: Loss of hop flavour

Post by LiverDance » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:32 am

NASH wrote:
LiverDance wrote:
NASH wrote:Hop flavour is always the first thing to go, unless.... you use a LOT of hops :lol: :lol: Then they'll hold that fresh hoppy flavour for a good few months if kept cold and there's not too much dissolved O2 in solution :cheers2:
This is interesting. So it would be better to not carb the beer until you are going to serve?
Dissolved O2 = oxygen. O2 pickup during the brewing process will kill any beer prematurely, even hops can't cover that up :cheers2:
Somehow in my mind I read that as dissolved C02? Exuse my idiocy
"Twenty years ago — a time, by the way, that hops such as Simcoe and Citra were already being developed, but weren’t about to find immediate popularity — there wasn’t a brewer on earth who would have gone to the annual Hop Growers of American convention and said, “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.” - Bell’s Brewery Director of Operations John Mallet on the scent of their popular Hopslam.

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