2016 Advent - December 5: Berlintermites - Berliner Weisse

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Re: 2015 Advent - December 5A: Berlintermites - Beliner Weis

Post by Jimmy » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:19 am

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Jimmy wrote:Going to brew up 15 gallons of this tomorrow. It's getting nailed with some raspberries.
How much for a keg in early August? :drool:
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Post by CorneliusAlphonse » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:27 am

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Jimmy wrote:Going to brew up 15 gallons of this tomorrow. It's getting nailed with some raspberries.
How much for a keg in early August? :drool:
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I'll be back in NS for just shy of 2 weeks. Brother's wedding on the 7ish'th. I'll definitely be in Halifax for some of it, but also PC.
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Post by Jimmy » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:29 am

There may still be some of this left at that point... Maybe :lol:

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Post by Jimmy » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:01 am

She's going to be a sour one! Checked the pH this morning and it was at 3.13! Hopefully the yeast survive in there!

Just heating to boil now..

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Post by LiverDance » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:59 pm

Gotta cut mine off tonight due to time but 3.6 is what I'm going with after 24 hours. Bring on summer!Image


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Post by MitchK » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:06 pm

I don't have a PH meter but I'll be brewing this soon. Debating between just letting the souring hit terminal over 3 days and counting on the fact that I'm pitching pure brevis rather than unmilled grain (so less chance of something else taking hold and terminal should be around 3.3) or just doing 24hrs and if it isn't sour enough post ferment I can always just dry hop it to add some more zing.

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Post by Jimmy » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:35 pm

MitchK wrote:I don't have a PH meter but I'll be brewing this soon. Debating between just letting the souring hit terminal over 3 days and counting on the fact that I'm pitching pure brevis rather than unmilled grain (so less chance of something else taking hold and terminal should be around 3.3) or just doing 24hrs and if it isn't sour enough post ferment I can always just dry hop it to add some more zing.
The one time I used a pure pitch of brevis it took more than 3 days to sour and the end beer wasn't as good as any of the ones made by pitching malt.

I'd pitch malt and sour for 24 hours... This method hasn't let me down yet, and I've brewed this beer a number of times. It's always in the ballpark pH after ~24 hours.

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Post by jtmwhyte » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:17 pm

Just pulled a pint of this. It's a pretty epic summer beer. Maybe the most satisfying beer to swill en masse that I've made. I'm definitely going to go more sour next time around.
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Post by Jimmy » Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:10 pm

jtmwhyte wrote:Just pulled a pint of this. It's a pretty epic summer beer. Maybe the most satisfying beer to swill en masse that I've made. I'm definitely going to go more sour next time around.
Nice!

And yes, you definitely can go lower than 3.5 for a nice sourness. I wouldn't hesitate to boil at 3.5 if time was an issue though - you'll still get a nice refreshing beer with a bit of tartness.

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Post by Lisa J » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:07 pm

My recent attempt at this is fantastic! I'm so happy with it that I want to put on a fruit infused version of it right away! Now if only the weather would cooperate with refreshing summer beer drinking...
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Post by Jimmy » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:34 pm

Lisa J wrote:My recent attempt at this is fantastic! I'm so happy with it that I want to put on a fruit infused version of it right away! Now if only the weather would cooperate with refreshing summer beer drinking...
Awesome! This weekend should be perfect for it!

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Post by MitchK » Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:12 pm

Jimmy wrote:
MitchK wrote:I don't have a PH meter but I'll be brewing this soon. Debating between just letting the souring hit terminal over 3 days and counting on the fact that I'm pitching pure brevis rather than unmilled grain (so less chance of something else taking hold and terminal should be around 3.3) or just doing 24hrs and if it isn't sour enough post ferment I can always just dry hop it to add some more zing.
The one time I used a pure pitch of brevis it took more than 3 days to sour and the end beer wasn't as good as any of the ones made by pitching malt.

I'd pitch malt and sour for 24 hours... This method hasn't let me down yet, and I've brewed this beer a number of times. It's always in the ballpark pH after ~24 hours.

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That's no good. I already have the brevis vial... Maybe I'll use it for a brett type thing in a carboy instead of doing the sour wort - pitch the brevis then pitch brett 2 days later. Then I can do the malt trick for this one.

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Post by Jimmy » Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:15 pm

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Jimmy wrote:
MitchK wrote:I don't have a PH meter but I'll be brewing this soon. Debating between just letting the souring hit terminal over 3 days and counting on the fact that I'm pitching pure brevis rather than unmilled grain (so less chance of something else taking hold and terminal should be around 3.3) or just doing 24hrs and if it isn't sour enough post ferment I can always just dry hop it to add some more zing.
The one time I used a pure pitch of brevis it took more than 3 days to sour and the end beer wasn't as good as any of the ones made by pitching malt.

I'd pitch malt and sour for 24 hours... This method hasn't let me down yet, and I've brewed this beer a number of times. It's always in the ballpark pH after ~24 hours.

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That's no good. I already have the brevis vial... Maybe I'll use it for a brett type thing in a carboy instead of doing the sour wort - pitch the brevis then pitch brett 2 days later. Then I can do the malt trick for this one.
Not saying brevis won't work, just that I didn't have luck with it and see no point in spending the money on it. The malt method has been consistent and great.

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Post by Jimmy » Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:38 am

$55 later...I just added a little over 13lbs of raspberries to the beer.
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Post by Becky » Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:08 am

Jimmy wrote:$55 later...I just added a little over 13lbs of raspberries to the beer.
I do believe that 3 glasses of this is now considered a serving of fruit! :rockin:

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Post by MitchK » Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:58 pm

did you do anything to process/sanitize the fruit first or just dumped the frozen berries right in?

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Post by Jimmy » Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:21 pm

MitchK wrote:did you do anything to process/sanitize the fruit first or just dumped the frozen berries right in?
Dumped them in frozen - no need to sanitize/pasteurize. Do a quick search on here for IQF (Individually Quick Frozen) fruit.

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Post by Jimmy » Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:45 am

It's quickly taking on color and flavour from the raspberries.

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Post by mcgster » Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:58 am

It's a great colour. I almost went with raspberry for my last Berliner but I made some grapefruit tincture that I wanted to try. Looking at that I'm thinking I should have done raspberries now!


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Post by Broob » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:35 am

Perhaps a dumb question. I have a two-burner hot plate - not sure of the wattage - but would that be enough to keep 5 gallons at the proper souring temp? edit and also would that be safe to run for 24 hours?
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Broob wrote:Perhaps a dumb question. I have a two-burner hot plate - not sure of the wattage - but would that be enough to keep 5 gallons at the proper souring temp? edit and also would that be safe to run for 24 hours?
I don't think it would be an issue to hold the temp.. Not able to answer your question about how the hot plate will deal with running that long.

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Jimmy wrote:
Broob wrote:Perhaps a dumb question. I have a two-burner hot plate - not sure of the wattage - but would that be enough to keep 5 gallons at the proper souring temp? edit and also would that be safe to run for 24 hours?
I don't think it would be an issue to hold the temp.. Not able to answer your question about how the hot plate will deal with running that long.
Thanks. Not willing to take responsibility for me burning my house down? :D
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Post by Jimmy » Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:15 pm

Broob wrote:
Jimmy wrote:
Broob wrote:Perhaps a dumb question. I have a two-burner hot plate - not sure of the wattage - but would that be enough to keep 5 gallons at the proper souring temp? edit and also would that be safe to run for 24 hours?
I don't think it would be an issue to hold the temp.. Not able to answer your question about how the hot plate will deal with running that long.
Thanks. Not willing to take responsibility for me burning my house down? :D
Ha, no thanks! But really, I have no idea if it could handle being on that long.

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Post by Jimmy » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:22 pm

Raspberries have been removed and the beer is cold crashing until the weekend.

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