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Re: 2015 Brewnosers homebrew comp?

Post by jeffsmith » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:17 am

GuingesRock wrote:Since you put it like that. :)

I still prefer amateur though. Not everyone brews in their home.
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Re: 2015 Brewnosers homebrew comp?

Post by GuingesRock » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:26 am

I wonder if Geoff Trail (#3 brewer of the year last year) brews at work. I would ...he works at Toronto Brewing Supplies.

Do you consider yourself to be a brewer, or a homebrewer?
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Re: 2015 Brewnosers homebrew comp?

Post by akr71 » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:18 pm

Jimmy wrote:I'm not really a fan of the naming. I think it's too vague on what it really is. It's a homebrew competition, so why not call it that? Brewnosers Homebrew Competition is my vote.
:stupid: Simple and to the point.
jeffsmith wrote:Home should be in there as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps there is stigma, but we should be proud that we're producing such great products in our homes. There's no point in hiding that.
This goes hand in hand with what I was going to ask. Who is our target audience anyway? Is this going to be open to entrants from across the country like other club competitions? If so, then we don't have to convince other homebrewers, they already know. Support or sponsorship from commercial breweries would be nice, but the competition should be squarely focused on homebrewing (amateur brewing, if you like).
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Post by GuingesRock » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:55 pm

Doe you guys consider yourselves to be brewers, or "homebrewers." Not trying to be argumentative, genuine question.
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Post by CartoonCod » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:01 pm

I've always mentioned I was a homebrewer in conversation. Never a brewer.

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Post by gm- » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:13 pm

Proud homebrewer, if I ever open a brewery, I might become a brewer :)

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Post by jeffsmith » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:14 pm

gm- wrote:Proud homebrewer, if I ever open a brewery, I might become a brewer :)
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Post by akr71 » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:15 pm

CartoonCod wrote:I've always mentioned I was a homebrewer in conversation. Never a brewer.
Same here, otherwise people think I work in a brewery. I have also said that 'all-grain brewing is my hobby.'
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Re: 2015 Brewnosers homebrew comp?

Post by LiverDance » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:37 pm

I've always been a homebrewer, if people have a stigma then that's their problem! They will be missing out on some tasty beer :cheers3:

Changing the use of the word homebrewer is like treating a symptom not the cause.
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Re: 2015 Brewnosers homebrew comp?

Post by GuingesRock » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:44 pm

Brewnosers Homebrew Competition sounds reasonable then. Thanks for the discussion.

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Re: 2015 Brewnosers homebrew comp?

Post by Jimmy » Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:49 pm

I feel like using the term "brewer" in place of "homebrewer" takes away from the profession of brewing. It would be like me calling myself a Doctor, because I heal myself with knowledge learned from the Doctors Book Of Home Remedies.

Homebrewer is a descriptive term for what we're doing..brewing at home.

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Post by amartin » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:12 pm

Yeah, not to call anyone's commitment into question, but when's the last time any of us spent 40+ hours a week brewing?

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Post by GuingesRock » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:14 pm

Jimmy wrote:I feel like using the term "brewer" in place of "homebrewer" takes away from the profession of brewing. It would be like me calling myself a Doctor, because I heal myself with knowledge learned from the Doctors Book Of Home Remedies.

Homebrewer is a descriptive term for what we're doing..brewing at home.
That's fair enough, but do we make beer, or do we make "homebrew"?

This competition, the way you are naming it, will judge homebrew ...."homebrew competition" That's what I don't like. :D
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Re: 2015 Brewnosers homebrew comp?

Post by jeffsmith » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:17 pm

I make home-brewed beer. By shying away from the term homebrew, I think you're contributing to the stereotype rather than trying to change people's minds about it.

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Post by GuingesRock » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:19 pm

I can live with home-brewed beer.
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Re: 2015 Brewnosers homebrew comp?

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GuingesRock wrote:
Jimmy wrote:I feel like using the term "brewer" in place of "homebrewer" takes away from the profession of brewing. It would be like me calling myself a Doctor, because I heal myself with knowledge learned from the Doctors Book Of Home Remedies.

Homebrewer is a descriptive term for what we're doing..brewing at home.
That's fair enough, but do we make beer, or do we make "homebrew"?

This competition, the way you are naming it, will judge homebrew ...."homebrew competition" That's what I don't like. :D
According to Merriam Webster, we make home brew, which is a "type" of beer.

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Post by LiverDance » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:27 pm

jeffsmith wrote:I make home-brewed beer. By shying away from the term homebrew, I think you're contributing to the stereotype rather than trying to change people's minds about it.
This! :rockin:
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Post by GuingesRock » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:38 pm

Jimmy wrote:I feel like using the term "brewer" in place of "homebrewer" takes away from the profession of brewing. It would be like me calling myself a Doctor, because I heal myself with knowledge learned from the Doctors Book Of Home Remedies.
Does that make you a homedoctor? :D

Supposing you had the same qualifications as a doctor, maybe you were even better qualified than most doctors out there, but you worked out of your home ...are you then a homedoctor, and your speciality turns from neurology say, to homedoctoring. :)
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Re: 2015 Brewnosers homebrew comp?

Post by Jimmy » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:42 pm

GuingesRock wrote:
Jimmy wrote:I feel like using the term "brewer" in place of "homebrewer" takes away from the profession of brewing. It would be like me calling myself a Doctor, because I heal myself with knowledge learned from the Doctors Book Of Home Remedies.
Does that make you a homedoctor? :D

Supposing you had the same qualifications as a doctor, maybe you were even better qualified than most doctors out there, but you worked out of your home ...are you then a homedoctor, and your speciality turns from neurology say, to homedoctoring. :)
No, because my profession would be that I'm a doctor (who happens to work from home).

It's no different than some of the Nano breweries that are currently up and running. They may be "technically" brewing at home (because that's where their brewery is), but in the end, they are brewing as a business.

Really it's the distinction between hobby (homebrewer) and business (brewer).

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Post by GuingesRock » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:49 pm

Jimmy wrote:
In the end, it's really just the distinction of hobby vs business.
A professional brewing at home isn't a home brewer. This is getting crazier.

If the idea is to distinguish between amateur and professional brewers, then shouldn't those be the words used?
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Re: 2015 Brewnosers homebrew comp?

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Someone pm me when we make progress in this thread. Lol
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Keith wrote:Someone pm me when we make progress in this thread. Lol
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Re: 2015 Brewnosers homebrew comp?

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GuingesRock wrote:
Jimmy wrote:
In the end, it's really just the distinction of hobby vs business.
A professional brewing at home isn't a home brewer. This is getting crazier.

If the idea is to distinguish between amateur and professional brewers, then shouldn't those be the words used?
Either way, they're a brewer (because they brew as a business), but the final product is what varies (homebrew vs non homebrew). This distinction is also what would generally prevent them from entering a homebrew competition.

I'm pretty sure they would agree that if they haul out their OBK 15G pot and burner and rips out a 10G batch of IPA that they are homebrewing.

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Re: 2015 Brewnosers homebrew comp?

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dean2k wrote:
Keith wrote:Someone pm me when we make progress in this thread. Lol
:stupid: :rockin:

And :stupid: 's

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Re: 2015 Brewnosers homebrew comp?

Post by GuingesRock » Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:09 pm

I'm not making much headway. :lol:
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