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Re: Hot Rod Heat Stick powered Brewery

Post by mcgster » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:28 pm

Those stainless elements are some slick looking, was that from brewhardware as well?
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Re: Hot Rod Heat Stick powered Brewery

Post by jtmwhyte » Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:03 pm

I'd be in for 20 ft in a group buy

EDIT: I'm out as I've sourced some.
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Re: Hot Rod Heat Stick powered Brewery

Post by LiverDance » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:44 am

mcgster wrote:Those stainless elements are some slick looking, was that from brewhardware as well?
I believe everwood carries those now
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Post by mckay75 » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:04 am


Is this the High temp wire you were talking about? If so...I'd be up for 20ft as well.
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Re: Hot Rod Heat Stick powered Brewery

Post by LiverDance » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:06 am

Me too
"Twenty years ago — a time, by the way, that hops such as Simcoe and Citra were already being developed, but weren’t about to find immediate popularity — there wasn’t a brewer on earth who would have gone to the annual Hop Growers of American convention and said, “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.” - Bell’s Brewery Director of Operations John Mallet on the scent of their popular Hopslam.
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Re: Hot Rod Heat Stick powered Brewery

Post by CorneliusAlphonse » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:38 am

I don't think Jayme needs any but we all do haha. I want some but don't feel comfortable enough with wire sizing to know exactly what we can get away with.
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Post by LiverDance » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:41 am

CorneliusAlphonse wrote:I don't think Jayme needs any but we all do haha. I want some but don't feel comfortable enough with wire sizing to know exactly what we can get away with.
I can check the wire size I use on my current 5500W element when I get home.
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Post by Jayme » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:11 pm

You might be able to get away with a 12awg teflon wire (I can work it out) but 10awg is not that much more and would be a better bet. Brian - your element is probably wired following CEC, but CEC is for a building. This is a closed conduit with very high ambient, so you really can't follow CEC for that (I would maybe make sure you meet it, but in reality you need to exceed it).

Liam is right - not buying any wire for myself, just trying to help! haha
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Post by jtmwhyte » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:11 pm

Even in a group buy with just the 3 of us it'd be around 50 bucks for about 33 feet each from that first link
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Post by mckay75 » Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:42 am

Any more thought on a group buy of some of the wire mentioned above?
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Re: Hot Rod Heat Stick powered Brewery

Post by LiverDance » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:11 am

mckay75 wrote:Any more thought on a group buy of some of the wire mentioned above?
I'm interested but does anyone know if we can get something like this local for a reasonable price?
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Post by mckay75 » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:37 am

I've put the word out with a few electrician friends to source some without any luck. That said...I'm in truro and options are pretty much non-existent.
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Re: Hot Rod Heat Stick powered Brewery

Post by LeafMan66_67 » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:03 pm

90 degree C rated wire is the most commonly specified in the construction industry.
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Post by LiverDance » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:39 pm

LeafMan66_67 wrote:90 degree C rated wire is the most commonly specified in the construction industry.
Got any job sites with some used or extra's laying around?
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Re: Hot Rod Heat Stick powered Brewery

Post by CorneliusAlphonse » Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:09 pm

LiverDance wrote:
LeafMan66_67 wrote:90 degree C rated wire is the most commonly specified in the construction industry.
Got any job sites with some used or extra's laying around?
90C isnt what we need.. The wire will be sitting at 100c ambient
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Post by LiverDance » Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:12 pm

haha my bad, too much conversion happening on my end :spilly:
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Post by jtmwhyte » Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:27 pm

Made some progress on the kettle end of things:
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19 Gallon Everwood Kettle with weldless ball valve from Noble Grape. Heat stick fits perfectly.
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Post by jtmwhyte » Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:35 pm

I also rigged up a clip to hold the stick in place
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Post by evanisnor » Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:44 pm

Damn that looks rad!
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Post by jtmwhyte » Mon Apr 06, 2015 9:52 pm

evanisnor wrote:Damn that looks rad!
Thanks, it's coming together. I'm waiting on a side pickup tube from OBK and a bulkhead for the lid re-circulation system from Dave. I also have to install some high temp silicone wire before I take it up to a boil. Until then I'll be mashing in it only.
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Post by LiverDance » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:31 am

jtmwhyte wrote:
evanisnor wrote:Damn that looks rad!
Thanks, it's coming together. I'm waiting on a side pickup tube from OBK and a bulkhead for the lid re-circulation system from Dave. I also have to install some high temp silicone wire before I take it up to a boil. Until then I'll be mashing in it only.
we need to get some of that Wire on the go. I couldn't find any leads. Should we bit the bullet and order from one of those places Jayme put up?
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Post by mckay75 » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:34 am

LiverDance wrote:
jtmwhyte wrote:
evanisnor wrote:Damn that looks rad!
Thanks, it's coming together. I'm waiting on a side pickup tube from OBK and a bulkhead for the lid re-circulation system from Dave. I also have to install some high temp silicone wire before I take it up to a boil. Until then I'll be mashing in it only.
we need to get some of that Wire on the go. I couldn't find any leads. Should we bit the bullet and order from one of those places Jayme put up?
I'd get in on that if you decide to order some.
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Post by jtmwhyte » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:17 pm

More pics:

Recirculation port on lid:
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High Temp Silicone Wire:
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Busy weekend coming up starting my M.Ed. and going to the Hip concert, but I'm optimistic I'll be taking this system for a test drive by next weekend :rockin:
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Post by mckay75 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:47 pm

Looks awesome! Where did you source the high temp wire?
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Post by jtmwhyte » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:16 pm

eBay. I'll grab the link later.
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