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Hop Help!

Post by kberry » Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:31 pm

I'm planning to brew a pale ale this weekend. I have some columbus and willamette kicking around from past brews and I picked up some simcoe today (which I've never brewed with). I'm looking for your thoughts on my hop schedule as well as on combining these hops in flavour and aroma additions. Thanks in advance!

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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
10 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 77.8 %
2 lbs 8.0 oz Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 2 18.5 %
8.1 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 30L (30.0 SRM) Grain 3 3.7 %
0.50 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 4 17.1 IBUs
1.50 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 6 13.3 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 7 8.3 IBUs
1.00 oz Willamette [5.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 8 3.5 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 9 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Willamette [5.50 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 10 0.0 IBUs
2.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 10.0 Days Hop 11 0.0 IBUs

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Re: Hop Help!

Post by mr x » Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:46 pm

Looks good, but I think I'd make sure I had 25-30 ibus from a 60 minute addition. I think those late addition ibus calculations are sketchy.
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Re: Hop Help!

Post by kberry » Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:11 pm

ok I'll think about moving some columbus to a 60 min addition. Thanks for the help!

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Re: Hop Help!

Post by LiverDance » Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:45 pm

Maybe move the columbus half ounce to 60 and the 1.5 ounce to 20 mins for flavor and a little more bitterness out of them. Looks yummy though :cheers:
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Re: Hop Help!

Post by kberry » Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:20 pm

do you think 55-60 ibu's would be too much? Beersmith suggests a maximum of 45 ibu for an APA.

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Re: Hop Help!

Post by LiverDance » Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:28 pm

kberry wrote:do you think 55-60 ibu's would be too much? Beersmith suggests a maximum of 45 ibu for an APA.
I don't think it'll be too much. Most of those IBU's are probably coming from the large amounts of late hops. It you have less than 45 IBU's between 60 and 30 mins you'll be fine.
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Post by kberry » Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:32 pm

ok so the late hop addition IBU's estimated by beersmith are generally considered high then? any experience with simcoe? how different from citra is it?

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Re: Hop Help!

Post by LiverDance » Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:36 pm

kberry wrote:ok so the late hop addition IBU's estimated by beersmith are generally considered high then? any experience with simcoe? how different from citra is it?
That recipe looks really good with the simcoe, you should be very happy with the results.
"Twenty years ago — a time, by the way, that hops such as Simcoe and Citra were already being developed, but weren’t about to find immediate popularity — there wasn’t a brewer on earth who would have gone to the annual Hop Growers of American convention and said, “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.” - Bell’s Brewery Director of Operations John Mallet on the scent of their popular Hopslam.

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