Hangin' Johnny Irish Red
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Hangin' Johnny Irish Red
This is what i'm up to this weekend, not quite sure how it'll turn out but thoughts and comments are welcome.
Irish Red Ale v.2
Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 40.00 L
Boil Size: 52.03 L
Boil Time: 90 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00
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Ingredients
Amount Item Type % or IBU
8.40 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 83.96 %
0.70 kg Munich Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 7.00 %
0.30 kg Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 3.00 %
0.30 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (75.0 SRM) Grain 3.00 %
0.15 kg Pale Chocolate Malt (200.0 SRM) Grain 1.50 %
0.08 kg Roasted Barley (Thomas Fawcett) (609.0 SRM) Grain 0.80 %
0.08 kg Kiln Coffe Malt (180.0 SRM) Grain 0.75 %
80.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.40 %] (60 min) Hops 32.3 IBU
40.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (15 min) Hops 4.0 IBU
2 Pkgs SafAle American Ale (DCL Yeast #US-05) Yeast-Ale
Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1.055 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.013 SG Estimated
Alcohol by Vol: 5.41 %
Bitterness: 36.3 IBU Calories: 474 cal/l
Est Color: 16.7 SRM
Mash Profile
Single Infusion, Medium Body Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 27.00 L of water at 165.5 F 154.0 F
10 min Step Add 36.05 L of water at 180.0 F 168.0 F
Notes
Add 5 grams of Calc Chloride, 3 Grams of Epsom Salt, and 5 grams of baking soda to the mash water.
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Irish Red Ale v.2
Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 40.00 L
Boil Size: 52.03 L
Boil Time: 90 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00
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Ingredients
Amount Item Type % or IBU
8.40 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 83.96 %
0.70 kg Munich Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 7.00 %
0.30 kg Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 3.00 %
0.30 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (75.0 SRM) Grain 3.00 %
0.15 kg Pale Chocolate Malt (200.0 SRM) Grain 1.50 %
0.08 kg Roasted Barley (Thomas Fawcett) (609.0 SRM) Grain 0.80 %
0.08 kg Kiln Coffe Malt (180.0 SRM) Grain 0.75 %
80.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.40 %] (60 min) Hops 32.3 IBU
40.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (15 min) Hops 4.0 IBU
2 Pkgs SafAle American Ale (DCL Yeast #US-05) Yeast-Ale
Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1.055 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.013 SG Estimated
Alcohol by Vol: 5.41 %
Bitterness: 36.3 IBU Calories: 474 cal/l
Est Color: 16.7 SRM
Mash Profile
Single Infusion, Medium Body Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 27.00 L of water at 165.5 F 154.0 F
10 min Step Add 36.05 L of water at 180.0 F 168.0 F
Notes
Add 5 grams of Calc Chloride, 3 Grams of Epsom Salt, and 5 grams of baking soda to the mash water.
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"Twenty years ago — a time, by the way, that hops such as Simcoe and Citra were already being developed, but weren’t about to find immediate popularity — there wasn’t a brewer on earth who would have gone to the annual Hop Growers of American convention and said, “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.” - Bell’s Brewery Director of Operations John Mallet on the scent of their popular Hopslam.
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Re: Hangin' Johnny Irish Red
I'm interested to see how this turns out. I'm looking to brew a red ale in a few weeks.
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Re: Hangin' Johnny Irish Red
Man, drop some $$$ and grab a couple packs of 1084. 

At Alexander Keith's we follow the recipes first developed by the great brewmaster to the absolute letter. 

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Re: Hangin' Johnny Irish Red
Ok, so maybe it's an Irish/Amerian Red
Honestly I never really got much flavor from 1084 so I just use US-05; but it has been a very long time since i used it. Will it make that big of a difference? It maybe worth trying both on the split batch, thoughts?

"Twenty years ago — a time, by the way, that hops such as Simcoe and Citra were already being developed, but weren’t about to find immediate popularity — there wasn’t a brewer on earth who would have gone to the annual Hop Growers of American convention and said, “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.” - Bell’s Brewery Director of Operations John Mallet on the scent of their popular Hopslam.
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Re: Hangin' Johnny Irish Red
No idea on the difference in an Irish Red, as I hate Irish Red, lol. But I'll give it another try in that recipe - lots of specialty malts in there. 

At Alexander Keith's we follow the recipes first developed by the great brewmaster to the absolute letter. 

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Re: Hangin' Johnny Irish Red
I am interested to see the colour of this. I want to get some deep colour into a rye AIPA I am working on. I think I will stick to either US-05 or 1056 and plain domestic 2 row for the base malt.
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Re: Hangin' Johnny Irish Red
Kegged and carbed this one this week. I'm loving the taste of it, a little sweetness up front followed by great malt backbone finishing with a hint of roastiness and well balanced hops. The color is more of an amber redish color nothing deep like you're looking for moxie, although I have heard that special b is a great way to get a deep red color as seen here http://forum.northernbrewer.com/viewtop ... =4&t=72841" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Twenty years ago — a time, by the way, that hops such as Simcoe and Citra were already being developed, but weren’t about to find immediate popularity — there wasn’t a brewer on earth who would have gone to the annual Hop Growers of American convention and said, “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.” - Bell’s Brewery Director of Operations John Mallet on the scent of their popular Hopslam.
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Re: Hangin' Johnny Irish Red
Just doughed in on my own version. The grain bill is pretty the same, I just everything cut in 1/2 for a 5 gal batch. I used chocolate malt in place of the pale chocolate and Caramel pills in place of the Caramel/Crystal Malt. Maybe I should of just used crystal 40L there. I didn't have the water additives either. We will see what happens.
I don't have any goldings hops so I'm to use what I have, the hall tradition and bram cross. I like malty beers so I'm going to drop the IBU's back alittle.
So many things to do before the boil. I better get back to it.
I don't have any goldings hops so I'm to use what I have, the hall tradition and bram cross. I like malty beers so I'm going to drop the IBU's back alittle.
So many things to do before the boil. I better get back to it.
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Re: Hangin' Johnny Irish Red
Hope you have a good session, maybe we can compare when your's is ready...that's if mine lasts that long 

"Twenty years ago — a time, by the way, that hops such as Simcoe and Citra were already being developed, but weren’t about to find immediate popularity — there wasn’t a brewer on earth who would have gone to the annual Hop Growers of American convention and said, “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.” - Bell’s Brewery Director of Operations John Mallet on the scent of their popular Hopslam.
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Re: Hangin' Johnny Irish Red
I'm going to try out this recipe this weekend. However I don't have any maris otter, just plain american 2-row. I was reading that they differ in that the MO is "very malty and tasty, similar to using lightly toasted 2-row plus some biscuit malt." I have some biscuit malt kicking around, think if I add a small percentage of that it will come out similar? Any other suggestions?
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Re: Hangin' Johnny Irish Red
If you just use the 2 row in place of the MO you'll be fine. I've done this before. There are plenty of other malts in there that will give a great malty taste.
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Re: Hangin' Johnny Irish Red
Ok, Here's what I'm gonna try this weekend. It's almost the exact same, so hopefully it'll be delicious! I've only got a few pounds of extract left so I figured I'd use it up for this brew and I'm only doing a 5 gallon batch. I also dropped the IBUs a bit for the wifey, she loves a malty red ale (but still appreciates a hoppy IPA). We'll see hoe it goes. This'll be brew 1 of hopefully 3 this weekend.
HJ Irish Red Clone
Type: Partial Mash
Batch Size: 18.93 L
Boil Size: 24.28 L
Boil Time: 60 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00
Amount Item Type % or IBU
7.50 lb Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 83.89 %
0.63 lb Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 7.05 %
0.27 lb Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 3.02 %
0.27 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 3.02 %
0.13 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 1.45 %
0.07 lb Coffee (Kiln) (170.0 SRM) Grain 0.78 %
0.07 lb Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 0.78 %
0.25 oz Bramling Cross [5.00 %] (60 min) Hops 4.2 IBU
1.00 oz Bramling Cross [5.00 %] (60 min) Hops 16.9 IBU
Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1.061 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.016 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.90 %
Bitterness: 21.1 IBU
Calories: 90 cal/l
Est Color: 17.6 SRM
HJ Irish Red Clone
Type: Partial Mash
Batch Size: 18.93 L
Boil Size: 24.28 L
Boil Time: 60 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00
Amount Item Type % or IBU
7.50 lb Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 83.89 %
0.63 lb Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 7.05 %
0.27 lb Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 3.02 %
0.27 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 3.02 %
0.13 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 1.45 %
0.07 lb Coffee (Kiln) (170.0 SRM) Grain 0.78 %
0.07 lb Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 0.78 %
0.25 oz Bramling Cross [5.00 %] (60 min) Hops 4.2 IBU
1.00 oz Bramling Cross [5.00 %] (60 min) Hops 16.9 IBU
Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1.061 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.016 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.90 %
Bitterness: 21.1 IBU
Calories: 90 cal/l
Est Color: 17.6 SRM
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Re: Hangin' Johnny Irish Red
Nice! You'll have to let me know how the BC hops work out. Have fun 

"Twenty years ago — a time, by the way, that hops such as Simcoe and Citra were already being developed, but weren’t about to find immediate popularity — there wasn’t a brewer on earth who would have gone to the annual Hop Growers of American convention and said, “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.” - Bell’s Brewery Director of Operations John Mallet on the scent of their popular Hopslam.
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