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Garrison Comp
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:02 pm
by Keith
Anyone know when entry's are due and what the rules are? All I know of is the style.
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:34 pm
by LeafMan66_67
keithforbes wrote:Anyone know when entry's are due and what the rules are? All I know of is the style.
Typically not due until mid to late February ....
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:26 pm
by jacinthebox
I'll brew a month out. My understanding is this style is best fresh
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:05 am
by Keith
Entry's are due in Feb 26th. I had this beer planned out a while. Just want to brew a test batch first.
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:23 pm
by GuingesRock
Details in the NG Newsletter that was emailed today.
I'm not entering. Never made a weizen. Not sure what on is even
Ladies and gentlemen, start your kettles!
Once again this winter, Garrison will host the Ultimate Brew-off Homebrew Challenge, a contest designed to showcase the talents of Maritime home brewers.
This is Garrison’s 6th annual Brew-Off in conjunction with Noble Grape, and it's the only annual Beer Judge Certification Program (BJCP) event in the Maritimes. And the beer style is:
Weizen/Weissbier (BJCP Description)
The top four entries will receive prizes while the winner will work with Garrison's brewer, Daniel Girard, to produce a full batch of their recipe for a special release in bottles!
The top 4 entries will also recieve:
1st: $75 Noble Grape Gift Card, 2 Cases of the finished beer & bragging rights.
2nd Place: $40 Noble Grape Gift Card
3rd Place: $30 Noble Grape Gift Card
4th Place: $20 Noble Grape Gift Card
Entry deadline is Thursday, February 20 & Awards Gala is scheduled for Thurs March 13th.
You will need 6 bottles (any format) to enter. Entry fee is $15 and each entry will receive a Long-sleeve-shirt, 2 tickets to the Gala, and a mixed 6 of garrison beer! (Additional shirts can be purchased for $15)
Entry forms will be available at Noble Grape locations and on our website in the next week or so.
Entries can be dropped off at any Noble Grape location. Fredericton & Coldbrook entries will need to be in a few days earlier to make sure we can get them to the brewery on time.
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:43 pm
by GuingesRock
....just been researching Weizens. Might have a crack at designing one in BS. Any tips please? I was going to use Safeale WB-06 dry yeast, Pilsner malt as base. Supposed to have wheat malt as well, white wheat malt or normal? I also need to figure out the hops, but I have an idea using a noble hop that I really like. Can I use a noble hop from any continent? OK to use Whirfloc?
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:05 pm
by bluenose
BCS says 23 g Hallertau @ 60 mins
and White labs WLP300 or Wyeast 3068
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:34 pm
by mr x
I'd definitely use the liquid yeast. And no whirlfloc.
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Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:49 pm
by GuingesRock
Thanks. Why no whirfloc? is that WB-06 dry yeast terrible?
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:02 pm
by GuingesRock
Greg Nash, If you see this. Do you have any tips for us on Weizens please. I notice in one of your posts you said combined pitching and fermenting temp 30C and no less than 45% wheat.
NASH wrote:Sounds good, it's almost like you thought about it
Rule of thumb for brewing Weizen from old country....
Pitch and fermentation temperature combined should equal 30 C. Some breweries pitch at 13 C, ferment at 17 C, some 14 and 16 etc. I adhere to this rule when brewing German-style Weizens. For the yeast, it works. For minimal yeast phenols, use smaller amounts of Munich/Melanoidin/Vienna-type malts. For more, use more of those malts. And never brew a Weizen with any less than 45% of the total grist bill as wheat. Otherwise, you'll be thrashed at town square by brewers from old country
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:17 pm
by mr x
GuingesRock wrote:Thanks. Why no whirfloc? is that WB-06 dry yeast terrible?
Don't use floculant on a wheat beer. I like 3068.
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Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:38 pm
by redoubt
GuingesRock wrote:I'm not entering. Never made a weizen. Not sure what on is even
Glad you changed your tune on this, Mark!
We're even trying to come up with some recipes for this one and, well, the closest I've ever been to a weizen is Keith's White -- which I assume is to weizens as Keith's IPA is to IPAs
-- and we've never brewed solo or come up with our own recipe for a beer.
We're not sure about the difference between the dry and liquid yeasts so we're going to try both, each in its own mini-batch, to see for ourselves. This is apparently one of Ed's favourite styles so you might ask him for tips next time you're in.
Bring on the
!
-Kirsten
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 6:19 pm
by GuingesRock
Kirsten, I've been researching it all day. I even Googled how to pronounce the damn stuff and listened to an MP3 of a German saying Weizen. I harassed a certain brilliant Brewnosers by PM, poor guy, I'm sure he has enough to do, but he was so kind and generous. I wanted bubble gum and banana to go with my hops I picked. I posted on here looking for info. Do you want to pool our research and enter this together as a team? Pick Ed's brain and anyone else you can find. JPHunter too, since he's doing a brew with you this weekend. I hear he's picking you up and all your stuff and taking you to his brewery to do your first brew. Nice guy. All the Brewnoses are so bloody friendly and helpful.
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:15 pm
by GuingesRock
Redoubt, Thanks for the PM... we're on it.
Been doing my bit. I've been practicing this all day and I think I've just about got it. Kathleen is going a bit nuts though.
http://www.howdoyousaythatword.com/word/hefeweizen/ (click on the audio link)
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:26 pm
by NASH
Weizen - "vite-zen"
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:31 pm
by chalmers
There are weizens at the NSLC, why not buy one to try one? Erdinger.
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:43 pm
by dean2k
So as far as I can tell, most Weizens are listed as Wheat + Pils + Yeast (give or take). What do you guys predict will help separate the entries apart? Methods like temp control or decoction? Or quality/source of ingredients?
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:47 pm
by mr x
First more than the second AFAIAC, but I see no reason not to use quality ingredients. Might be nice to throw in some hard winter wheat. I've done it and been quite happy.
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:49 pm
by redoubt
chalmers wrote:There are weizens at the NSLC, why not buy one to try one? Erdinger.
That's the plan for us, anyway. Sadly, we made the mistake of going to the Berwick NSLC where we had our choice of Molson's (or maybe Moosehead?) or Keith's wheat beers. Probably wouldn't be overly helpful.
We'll stop in a better NSLC when we get the chance and buy a few different types if they've a few available. I'm kind of excited to try my very first weizen. Yay for new styles!
-Kirsten
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:54 pm
by chalmers
Strange, Berwick shows 36 bottles available. Maybe they had a run on them on the weekend.
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Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:01 pm
by redoubt
It's always possible that I've just missed it in my tour of the store. Not unheard of for me. And for some reason, I always forget I can search these things up on their website. I have a Luddite streak.
If I get a chance, I'll pick up a couple tonight or tomorrow.
Thanks chalmers!
-Kirsten
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:34 pm
by chalmers
Sure thing, happy to help!
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:18 pm
by gm-
I really dislike regular weizens, but I will probably give it a go anyways
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:55 pm
by CartoonCod
Be sure to check the BJCP guidelines to get an idea of what the judges are looking for.
http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style15.php#1a
Re: Garrison Comp
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:09 pm
by LiverDance
also Garrison posted a weizen on their facebook page a while back that suggested what they would be looking for. I forget what it was though.