Hop Hash

[NASH]

Another thing to consider with this stuff is that it is pretty much water insoluble

...but is it alcohol insoluble? will the alcohol in the beer do the trick.

Of course, that's basically what I was saying. Beer ain't water. Its the same as dry-hopping.


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[wortly]

I considered that but don't think I'll go that route in the firkin. If you can dry-hop, you can dry-hash. It'll dissolve with a little time, same as using whole hops.

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Excellent point. The extraction efficiency will be affected by the temperature and alcohol %. We were just thinking of using alcohol to turn it into sludge so that it didn't end up like a chunk of bullion in cold water and end up clogging something. I'm pretty stoked to hear how this ends up for people.

[NASH]

I considered that but don't think I'll go that route in the firkin. If you can dry-hop, you can dry-hash. It'll dissolve with a little time, same as using whole hops.

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Excellent point. The extraction efficiency will be affected by the temperature and alcohol %. We were just thinking of using alcohol to turn it into sludge so that it didn't end up like a chunk of bullion in cold water and end up clogging something. I'm pretty stoked to hear how this ends up for people.

Okay the firkin is dosed and will be on this Wednesday.

Wortly, the hashish is denser than I thought. I had only opened my sample bag and checked a little bit out at the top, which was gummy and perhaps a bit fluffy. When I actually opened the bag to weigh out my dose, it was compacted and dense (save for the bit at the top of the bag). Sooooo, I dropped it into 1/2 oz of vodka. it didn't exactly melt into solution. I left it soak for a while but I think it should have been soaked a day ahead of time as it still didn't want to break down that well. I added a cup of boiling water and that melted it down pretty good. Once I saw that had worked reasonably well I dosed it into the firkin with sugar and bunged it up. The hash smells wonderful. Should be interesting!

[wortly]

Oh man. I really wish I was close to Halifax this week! I'll chat with JM to see if there might be an easier way to "fluff" it.

[NASH]

2nd run Shine is the answer!

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[mikeorr]

Okay the firkin is dosed and will be on this Wednesday.

Is the Deadwood Wheat with hop hash still a go for today's Firkin Wednesday? 4pm, right? I should have just enough time to swing by after work for a bite and a drink and then rush home for my last curling game of the season...

[NASH]

Okay the firkin is dosed and will be on this Wednesday.

Is the Deadwood Wheat with hop hash still a go for today's Firkin Wednesday? 4pm, right? I should have just enough time to swing by after work for a bite and a drink and then rush home for my last curling game of the season...

Yes sir, it's on today!

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[GAM]

I'm trying to raise the forces. I was there at 4:15 last week but no firkin and wifey was picking me up at 5:00.

I recieved a bag of F-cap last night and will bring some to the RB.

Sandy

[NASH]

Nice. I'll have words with the firkin cracker about having it done at 4 pm when its supposed to be. My apologies Sandman. First I've heard of it.

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[GAM]

I thought you were late. Just giving you the gears.

Sandy

[NASH]

Not me, pal

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[NASH]

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[LiverDance]

I should be there around 5, save some for me

[GAM]

I'll be there soon. None for you Brian.

Sandy

[mr x]

Did you ever find out what hops it was from?

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[akr71]

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Plus, how was the Hashified Deadwood Wheat?

[mr x]

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lol

[GAM]

Not very. Mike Orr, Tim Feeley and I had to A-B with the original beer to detect the differences. Greg said it made his tongue numb but I didn't get that.

Sandy

[LiverDance]

There wasn't much going on, a little different mouthfeel and aroma from the original but nothing like I was expecting with those specs on the hash.

[Jayme]

Kind of funny - I had the idea about two years ago to make hop has with bubble bags. Wrote in to the Brewing Network Sunday Session asking if they knew of this being done before. I believe the on-air answer was something to the effect of "you need to stop smoking so much weed, you drunk stoner" hahahaha

At least now I know it can be done! I think I'll be trying this with some of my home grown hops this summer.

[GuingesRock]

Kind of funny - I had the idea about two years ago to make hop has with bubble bags. Wrote in to the Brewing Network Sunday Session asking if they knew of this being done before. I believe the on-air answer was something to the effect of "you need to stop smoking so much weed, you drunk stoner" hahahaha

At least now I know it can be done! I think I'll be trying this with some of my home grown hops this summer.

So you are the smart one and they are the idiots, and they thought it was the other way around.

[Jayme]

Potentially I think! It was a pretty funny bit. If I can remember which episode it was, I will post a clip.

[TimG]

I had the idea about two years ago to make hop has with bubble bags. Wrote in to the Brewing Network Sunday Session asking if they knew of this being done before. I believe the on-air answer was something to the effect of "you need to stop smoking so much weed, you drunk stoner" hahahaha

Awesome. Post the clip, ha

Miss you drunk stoners!!

[shaitan]

Re: Hops hash results...

I know some of you have had less than satisfactory results from the hops hash "dryhashing" thus far, but this is explained via lupulin gland morphology and basic solubility chemistry.

The lupulin glands (see attached photos) are like little hollow wasps nests or balloons, where all the good stuff (resins, oils, alphas+betas) accumulate inside the hollow interior, and with the whole thing being surrounded by a layer of pretty much impermeable wax/resin. If you "dryhash" with hops hash, the small amount of ethanol (5-10%) present in the beer is insufficient to permeate into the gland and extract the compounds of interest. Regular dryhopping uses pelletized hops, where some of the lupulin glands have been mechanically disrupted by sheer forces, heating, and drying of the tissues, and thus a percentage of the resins/oils are released into the beer. Hopping during the boil (where no ethanol is present for extraction) also breaks down the lupulin glands via heat.

I made a 0.5 gram hops hash extract in ethanol (100%), and added a small amount (5mL) to a finished beer to see the effects. The results were pretty astounding. The whole beer went cloudy/turbid, forming an emulsion, due to the high amount of resins extracted; it looked like chicken noodle soup or a wheat beer. The neck of the bottle was actually coated in a greasy film, due to the oils extracted. The taste was a pleasant pineapple/citrus, with none of the usual danky hops funk, grassy notes and no bitterness, with a lingering burn at the back of the throat...(I might have to work on dosage).

I would suggest making hops hash ethanol extracts...40% vodka is probably not enough...find a buddy who makes shine ... and add the ethanol extract just prior to bottling/kegging. If you can't get your hands on high proof spirits, you could try heating the hops hash or grinding it first, prior to "dryhopping."

Hope this adds to the discussion.

[GAM]

That was a thought I had had (make an alchol slury) but I figured the folks who had it would know better than I.

Where can we get some of this for our own experiments?

Sandy