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carboy straps

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:24 pm
by bluenose
I'll keep looking in the meantime, but does anyone know the best place to buy carboy straps?

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:26 pm
by Jimmy
Soon to be biab-brewing.com :lol:

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:26 pm
by Jimmy
NG carries them, though I'm not sure of the price

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:31 pm
by jeffsmith
Jimmy wrote:Soon to be biab-brewing.com :lol:
Do it! I'm in need of at least a couple.

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:32 pm
by bluenose
I was going to get SWMBO to make me a couple, but she doesn't want to ruin the timing on her sewing machine... FYI, you can get cheap webbing from the dollar store if you buy the ratchet tie-downs... MEC also has suitable webbing at $0.85/metre

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:50 pm
by Jimmy
jeffsmith wrote:
Jimmy wrote:Soon to be biab-brewing.com :lol:
Do it! I'm in need of at least a couple.
I'm thinking a cover/carrier in one. Just a black fabric that the carboy slides into, the top pulls tight with a drawstring and some webbing running from one side-underneath-and back up the other side with some handes.

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:31 am
by bluenose
I've seen those somewhere, but I'd be scared to see what happens if wort ended up inside it during fermentation

now, if you had something along the plain jane version...

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:32 am
by bluenose
actually... what if you used a strong mesh for your bag, like the stuff camping cookware comes in?

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:33 am
by Jimmy
bluenose wrote:actually... what if you used a strong mesh for your bag, like the stuff camping cookware comes in?
That wouldn't block the sunlight

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:34 am
by chalmers
I believe NG's price for the carriers is $16. Which seems high for $3 of webbing. But I'm very pleased with mine.
They've also got the orange carboy handles for much cheaper. Anyone use them on Better Bottles? I'd be concerned that the plastic would flex under the pressure, otherwise I'd switch to them.

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:52 am
by bluenose
chalmers wrote:I believe NG's price for the carriers is $16. Which seems high for $3 of webbing. But I'm very pleased with mine.
They've also got the orange carboy handles for much cheaper. Anyone use them on Better Bottles? I'd be concerned that the plastic would flex under the pressure, otherwise I'd switch to them.
Once you factor in shipping, I don't think you can get it cheaper online

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:17 am
by Juniper Hill
You mean like the Brew haller, right? A friend lent me one. It works great for carrying heavy carboys. Much, much easier on your back. Haven't tried it on any of my PET bottles, but I think they'd stand up okay.

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:18 am
by S-04
I got mine from ebay. With shipping it was a little cheaper than NG. If you want more than one the combined shipping would save you a few bucks.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Brew-Hauler-Carb ... 53f1940e89

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:40 am
by RubberToe
How about milk crates? They don't cover but making moving a glass carboy around a lot easier and safer. I used to use them but I'm onto plastic carboys now.

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:42 am
by Jimmy
RubberToe wrote:How about milk crates? They don't cover but making moving a glass carboy around a lot easier and safer. I used to use them but I'm onto plastic carboys now.
Plastic carboys are the answer. Glass is too heavy, and after seeing some nasty cuts from broken carboys, I'm staying clear of them.


Gore warning for my upcoming post

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:47 am
by Jimmy
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Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:48 am
by bluenose
that's what I want to avoid

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:49 am
by Bryan
chalmers wrote:I believe NG's price for the carriers is $16. Which seems high for $3 of webbing. But I'm very pleased with mine.
They've also got the orange carboy handles for much cheaper. Anyone use them on Better Bottles? I'd be concerned that the plastic would flex under the pressure, otherwise I'd switch to them.
I use the orange carboy handles, seems to work pretty well.

***I wrote this before I saw the pictures!!!*** How did the carboy break in those instances ??

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:54 am
by Juniper Hill
Definately want to avoid that! I've also been making the shift to plastic carboys. Broke two glass ones this fall.

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:08 am
by bluenose
Any particular brand of plastic bottle? How much do they cost, on average?

a lot of people on the other forum (whose name we shall not mention) talk about Better Bottles
http://www.better-bottle.com/

anyone here use them? Supposedly, Water N Wine has them. I shall call...

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:18 am
by Jimmy
bluenose wrote:Any particular brand of plastic bottle? How much do they cost, on average?

a lot of people on the other forum (whose name we shall not mention) talk about Better Bottles
http://www.better-bottle.com/

anyone here use them? Supposedly, Water N Wine has them. I shall call...
If I'm using a carboy, I use the better bottle. Lately though, I've been brewing strictly in my large semi-transparent buckets that Wine Kitz sells. They must be 30 liter buckets and they are graduated up to the 29L point.

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Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:23 am
by RubberToe
I use the 23L plastic carboys from Noble Grape. They cost about $20.

I wish they were a bit bigger and I get blowoff on most ales depending on the yeast and temperature; I'm fine with that though.

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:24 am
by Juniper Hill
bluenose wrote:Any particular brand of plastic bottle? How much do they cost, on average?

a lot of people on the other forum (whose name we shall not mention) talk about Better Bottles
http://www.better-bottle.com/

anyone here use them? Supposedly, Water N Wine has them. I shall call...
I've been using the Vintage Shop bottles for a few months. They're BPA free and aren't supposed to be Oxygen permeable.

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:28 am
by Juniper Hill
Jimmy wrote:
bluenose wrote:Any particular brand of plastic bottle? How much do they cost, on average?

a lot of people on the other forum (whose name we shall not mention) talk about Better Bottles
http://www.better-bottle.com/

anyone here use them? Supposedly, Water N Wine has them. I shall call...
If I'm using a carboy, I use the better bottle. Lately though, I've been brewing strictly in my large semi-transparent buckets that Wine Kitz sells. They must be 30 liter buckets and they are graduated up to the 29L point.

Those are great buckets. I used them to transport some fresh cider from the valley this fall. The lids snap on tight, and not a drop spilled. Good size fermenters for a 5 gallon batch.

Re: carboy straps

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:34 am
by Jimmy
AN IMPORTANT WARNING
With regard to comments and suggestions made in this article, it is the responsibility of the user to
take all necessary steps to prevent injury and property damage and recommendations made herein
do not relieve the user of this ultimate responsibility.

Glass carboys have played a significant role in home winemaking over the years. However, no
responsible discussion involving washing and sanitizing of winemaking equipment can fail to mention
that glass carboys, especially the soft-glass carboys commonly available to home winemakers and
brewers, are potentially dangerous and must be handled with extreme caution and nothing stated in
this article should be interpreted otherwise. Major manufacturers of glass laboratory equipment and
home winemaking and brewing forums warn of the potential hazards, and a brief search of the
Internet for, “glass carboy injury” will turn up seemingly endless reports of accidents.
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Glass, soft glass in particular, is slightly soluble in water and more soluble if the water contains
caustics, which are common ingredients in washing agents. As glass dissolves from the surface of
glass objects, micro cracks form and the strength of the object becomes increasingly compromised.
With continued use, glass carboys become more and more fragile. Thus, a mode of handling that you
may have executed many times with a given carboy can result in an unexpected breakage. Never
carry glass carboys by their necks and be aware that even lifting a full glass carboy off a counter by
placing your hands around its base can cause it to crack wide open. Carboy carrying harnesses are
not an ideal solution, as they do not provide protection from flying glass shards. Carrying bags and
crates offer greater protection. Washing glass carboys is especially dangerous, because they will be,
of necessity, uncovered and likely to be slippery – always wear protective gloves and clothing.
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