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Bottling an RIS

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:25 pm
by jeffsmith
I'm planning on bottling my 11.6% RIS this evening and using table sugar for priming. My question is, should I be adding some fresh yeast (US-05) when I prime? The yeast I used to ferment was Wyeast 1728 which has an ABV tolerance of ~12%. I'm thinking that because I was relatively close to that, that I should be adding about 3/4tsp of dry yeast to make sure all the bottles carb.

Thoughts?

Re: Bottling an RIS

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:29 pm
by jeffsmith
I should also mention that I'm shooting for about 2.2 volumes of CO2, and I've got 5.25 gallons that I'll be bottling.

Re: Bottling an RIS

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:32 pm
by spears104
I've had trouble carbonating my higher ABV beers in the past. They either took forever or never fully carbonated. Is there a dry yeast that can tolerate 11.6%?

Re: Bottling an RIS

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:50 pm
by jeffsmith
spears104 wrote:I've had trouble carbonating my higher ABV beers in the past. They either took forever or never fully carbonated. Is there a dry yeast that can tolerate 11.6%?
I think US-05 will be fine at 11-12% according to what I've read. It should at least last long enough to eat up the little bit of priming sugar that will be in the bottles.

Re: Bottling an RIS

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:52 pm
by akr71
I would.

Re: Bottling an RIS

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:56 pm
by jeffsmith
akr71 wrote:I would.
Any idea on amount Andy? I was thinking ¾ of a tsp based on the "yeasting rates" in this NB PDF.

Re: Bottling an RIS

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:11 pm
by akr71
Too much bottling yeast isn't a problem like too much sugar (IMO its still too little to cause any kind of off-flavor). They'll only eat as much sugar as is available to them, assuming the alcohol doesn't get to them. 3/4 tsp seems good to me. When I bottle(d), I dissolve the priming sugar in some (boiled) water and rack on top of that. On bigger beers, I threw the some yeast (prob a half to 1tsp) in the bucket with the dissolved sugar before racking because I was paranoid that the yeast wouldn't get evenly distributed.

Interesting doc - thanks for pointing that out.

Re: Bottling an RIS

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:37 pm
by jeffsmith
I'll probably just wing 1 tsp in then, just to be safe. I've spent so much time on this beer already that the last thing I'd want is for it to not be carbed properly. Thanks for the info!

Re: Bottling an RIS

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:45 pm
by BBrianBoogie
I've had much better results adding fresh yeast than not on a beer like this. I add about 2 tbsp of my freshest yeast cake from the fridge to the bottling bucket. You could also cold crash to get some of the dead yeast out and add a couple additional tbsp of yeast cake if you're concerned about not having much yeast in the bottles.

Re: Bottling an RIS

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:54 pm
by jeffsmith
Thanks Brian—I think I'll likely head with the dry yeast route.

Re: Bottling an RIS

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:27 pm
by mr x
You may find that dry yeast will drop out without carbing in a high alcohol beer. I just went through this again (sigh) on my big brown beer. It would not carb, and fresh yeast that was not still slightly active wouldn't do shit. I used one massive pich from Nash that I activated with CLO2. Nothing. When I finally pitched onto just finishing yeastcake from my wheat beer, bingo.

Re: Bottling an RIS

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:09 pm
by jeffsmith
I wonder if I should make up a small starter with some rinsed yeast then just to get things going and them bottle when that's nice and active?

Re: Bottling an RIS

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:37 pm
by mr x
That's what I would do. I'll never try to pitch unactivated yeast into fermented wort ever again.