Robobrew owners question
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Re: Robobrew owners question
Looks very similar to what I had
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Re: Robobrew owners question
Yeah that happened with my version 3.0 as well. Once replaced I haven't had an issue. That was over 2 years ago.
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Re: Robobrew owners question
Anyone with Robobrew notice a temp jump issue?
I have a V3.0.
I notice that when I have the elements turned on and they are on (lights are on) the temp is about 5deg F higher than I get with a external thermometer. Turn the elements off and the temp lowers that same 5deg F or so and lines up with 1-2F of the thermopen I am using. This was tested at 150F.
I know I can do a temp adjustment, just wondering if that will take care of this phantom difference?
I notice during the boil it says closer to 221F when boil is 212F. Haven't tried pausing the panel when boiling to see if it drops to 212F or not.
Strikes me as odd. Reads OK with elements not working, but reads high when elements are working.
I have a V3.0.
I notice that when I have the elements turned on and they are on (lights are on) the temp is about 5deg F higher than I get with a external thermometer. Turn the elements off and the temp lowers that same 5deg F or so and lines up with 1-2F of the thermopen I am using. This was tested at 150F.
I know I can do a temp adjustment, just wondering if that will take care of this phantom difference?
I notice during the boil it says closer to 221F when boil is 212F. Haven't tried pausing the panel when boiling to see if it drops to 212F or not.
Strikes me as odd. Reads OK with elements not working, but reads high when elements are working.
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Re: Robobrew owners question
I think I may have found my answer in one of Kegland's videos.
Because the temp probe is so close to the heating elements, it is likely getting some extra residual heat from the elements.
Good Friday evening issue solved, or answered at least.
Because the temp probe is so close to the heating elements, it is likely getting some extra residual heat from the elements.
Good Friday evening issue solved, or answered at least.
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Hey Kevin - I am going through this right now, and wonder if you can give me a little advice. I ordered the 3.1 board and 3.1 screen from OBK; however, the screen that arrived is EXACTLY like my 3.0 screen. As expected, it does not work (E3 error). Just for fun, I reconnected my old 3.0 screen, and it gives the same E3 error. I am confident that I followed their wiring diagram precisely.KB1138 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:58 pmYeah, I bought the 3.1 board and screen from OBK. The 3.1 board isn't compatible with the 3.0 screen so both have to be replaced. Rewiring it is fairly straightforward, OBK has a diagram available. I found it a little confusing, but if you take before pics so you know which is which you should be fine. Pretty easy repair all around
Do you recall if your 3.1 screen was identical in appearance to your 3.0 screen? In every picture I have seen, the 3.1 screen has the "Brewzilla" branding on it. It is clearly different from the prior version.
Having a hard time confirming that I have the correct parts, and would love to hear from you.
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Re: Robobrew owners question
I did same, bought 3.1 board and 3.1 display from OBK. Display is identical to the 3.0. My my board wasn’t fried, just some temp issues, both displays work with my 3.0 board.dfc wrote:Hey Kevin - I am going through this right now, and wonder if you can give me a little advice. I ordered the 3.1 board and 3.1 screen from OBK; however, the screen that arrived is EXACTLY like my 3.0 screen. As expected, it does not work (E3 error). Just for fun, I reconnected my old 3.0 screen, and it gives the same E3 error. I am confident that I followed their wiring diagram precisely.KB1138 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:58 pmYeah, I bought the 3.1 board and screen from OBK. The 3.1 board isn't compatible with the 3.0 screen so both have to be replaced. Rewiring it is fairly straightforward, OBK has a diagram available. I found it a little confusing, but if you take before pics so you know which is which you should be fine. Pretty easy repair all around
Do you recall if your 3.1 screen was identical in appearance to your 3.0 screen? In every picture I have seen, the 3.1 screen has the "Brewzilla" branding on it. It is clearly different from the prior version.
Having a hard time confirming that I have the correct parts, and would love to hear from you.
I am confident OBK is selling 3.0 displays as if 3.1, but I emailed them and Patrick have a very confident answer (not rude) that they are not sending incorrect displays. Said they would have heard about it many times.
I have a co-worker who was having same issue as me, bought 3.1 display and 3.1 board from OBK and he got an older looking display and the 2 won’t work together.
He has contacted OBK as well. Last I heard no resolution, but it’s been a couple months since we chatted about it.
Since I was able to get things patched up and working, I am OK, but I have a board and display I paid for that I can’t use. Also can’t return as they have clearly stated no returns if I try to install in 3.0 robobrew.
I followed Kegland’s upgrade procedure to a T.
OBK picture of the 3.1 display is even wrong (or it was a month ago).
There is an historic pic if you google from OBK that has a 3.1 upgrade kit, it has the proper display pictured. But no stock.
Maybe Patrick sees this and sees that there are multiple people with same issue.
There is a logic flip about temp from old board to new that goes to display. This is why display can’t be mixed. New display has more components on it, presumably to handle this.
3.1 and 3.1.1 displays are identical, just different software.
Be nice to get the part I paid for.
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Thanks Kevin. Sadly, this is very similar to my story... except Patrick has lost his professional veneer. He must be getting sick of lying to people about the products he is peddling. I sent the screen shot (as you mentioned, from his own site), and he will not even respond to it. I am going to escalate this, and I will let you know what I discover.Swine wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:10 pmI did same, bought 3.1 board and 3.1 display from OBK. Display is identical to the 3.0. My my board wasn’t fried, just some temp issues, both displays work with my 3.0 board.dfc wrote:Hey Kevin - I am going through this right now, and wonder if you can give me a little advice. I ordered the 3.1 board and 3.1 screen from OBK; however, the screen that arrived is EXACTLY like my 3.0 screen. As expected, it does not work (E3 error). Just for fun, I reconnected my old 3.0 screen, and it gives the same E3 error. I am confident that I followed their wiring diagram precisely.KB1138 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:58 pmYeah, I bought the 3.1 board and screen from OBK. The 3.1 board isn't compatible with the 3.0 screen so both have to be replaced. Rewiring it is fairly straightforward, OBK has a diagram available. I found it a little confusing, but if you take before pics so you know which is which you should be fine. Pretty easy repair all around
Do you recall if your 3.1 screen was identical in appearance to your 3.0 screen? In every picture I have seen, the 3.1 screen has the "Brewzilla" branding on it. It is clearly different from the prior version.
Having a hard time confirming that I have the correct parts, and would love to hear from you.
I am confident OBK is selling 3.0 displays as if 3.1, but I emailed them and Patrick have a very confident answer (not rude) that they are not sending incorrect displays. Said they would have heard about it many times.
I have a co-worker who was having same issue as me, bought 3.1 display and 3.1 board from OBK and he got an older looking display and the 2 won’t work together.
He has contacted OBK as well. Last I heard no resolution, but it’s been a couple months since we chatted about it.
Since I was able to get things patched up and working, I am OK, but I have a board and display I paid for that I can’t use. Also can’t return as they have clearly stated no returns if I try to install in 3.0 robobrew.
I followed Kegland’s upgrade procedure to a T.
OBK picture of the 3.1 display is even wrong (or it was a month ago).
There is an historic pic if you google from OBK that has a 3.1 upgrade kit, it has the proper display pictured. But no stock.
Maybe Patrick sees this and sees that there are multiple people with same issue.
There is a logic flip about temp from old board to new that goes to display. This is why display can’t be mixed. New display has more components on it, presumably to handle this.
3.1 and 3.1.1 displays are identical, just different software.
Be nice to get the part I paid for.
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I appreciate your feedback. Cheers!
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Re: Robobrew owners question
I ordered a replacement board and screen from EastCoast Hoppers and got a display with the brewzilla logo on it. The guy from ECH was really friendly and easy to deal with. When I ordered the part from him he didn't have any listed on his website, but special ordered some in for me. He is getting my business over OBK from now on.
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What kind of crush are you all using?
First brew went great, but my numbers were a little low so I made the crush a little finer and it gummed up the screen and eventually blocked the pump.
I'll try using some rice hulls but I feel like with was the grain since the first run was perfect.
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First brew went great, but my numbers were a little low so I made the crush a little finer and it gummed up the screen and eventually blocked the pump.
I'll try using some rice hulls but I feel like with was the grain since the first run was perfect.
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Re: Robobrew owners question
I've just been using a credit card to set the gap
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Not a robobrew but I used to have a grainfather and I got my best efficiency with malt conditioning. The finer the malt was crushed the slower wort flowed through the bed and the worse my efficiency got.
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Re: Robobrew owners question
Just tested some grains with the credit card gap and it seems much more reasonable for the robobrew false bottom design.
I'm tempted to take the steel pipe that goes up the middle of the malt pipe out and put my biab bag in and recirculate into the grain bed.
First I'll test the new crush size. Brewing is so simple in this I don't dread doing it anymore like I did with the old set up.
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I'm tempted to take the steel pipe that goes up the middle of the malt pipe out and put my biab bag in and recirculate into the grain bed.
First I'll test the new crush size. Brewing is so simple in this I don't dread doing it anymore like I did with the old set up.
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I don't doubt there's more fine tuning I could do with my crush or grain conditioning, but currently the CC gap gets me good efficiency and I've never had a stuck sparge or mash which is sufficient for me.
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That will work.Halifax_Jeff wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:48 pmI'm tempted to take the steel pipe that goes up the middle of the malt pipe out and put my biab bag in and recirculate into the grain bed.
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After switching to a bag , I won't go back
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Do you put it in the malt pipe or ditch it all together?Bradbrewsbeer wrote:After switching to a bag , I won't go back
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I got rid of it all together, just leave the falsebottom in amd away you go . I did buy " the brewbag " which is well worth the $80 price tag. Also put in a ratcheting pulley. It makes my brewday much easier. I usually get around 68-70% efficiency. I could probably double crush and do better but I'm lazy.
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Do you just sparge over the hanging bag?
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Do you just sparge over the hanging bag?
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Re: Robobrew owners question
I usually only do a 30 min boil , so most brews I can do a full volume biab. For higher gravity beers I will sparge over the bag
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I think I'll try the bag inside the grain basket. I like sparging on the brewzilla setup it's so simple. The pump getting clogged is a pain
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Very cool new product. 1500 watts might have a hard time keeping up the boil , but the extra mash space for full volume biab is what I like. https://www.noblegrape.ca/products/brew ... tender-kit
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Re: Robobrew owners question
I've been thinking about that as I also do full volume mashes. I was considering a Grainfather S40 but I see there's an upcoming Brewzilla v4 that is fully bottom draining which is a huge plus.
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