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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by GuingesRock » Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:50 am

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keithforbes wrote:Still didn't answer my question about oats adding to head and mouth feel
Well, if you add a sock, it will add sock character. Is that what you really need? I didn't find need to add turbidity to the beer (with wheat) for head, when it really wasn't necessary. As far as mouthfeel, not something I'm looking to add that way in a IIPA.

I think Keith is brewing with extract and steeping grains. He's a partial grain brewer ATM. I wonder if it's something that has benefits in partial grain brewing?
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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by NASH » Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:27 am

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keithforbes wrote:Still didn't answer my question about oats adding to head and mouth feel
Well, if you add a sock, it will add sock character. Is that what you really need? I didn't find need to add turbidity to the beer (with wheat) for head, when it really wasn't necessary. As far as mouthfeel, not something I'm looking to add that way in a IIPA.
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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by NASH » Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:33 am

keithforbes wrote:Still didn't answer my question about oats adding to head and mouth feel. I don't find Oats add much of a flavor myself, however I'm a amateur at best.
Nash appreciate your direction, what would you say is key to a great beer to get the consistent head and body? I hate asking these questions, but want to better myself. :cheers2:
You can start by reading the BJCP link JohnG posted. There's no one thing I can suggest really. It's more the sum of all parts. Does your beer lack body? What is your typical FG on a given beer? Are you doing partial mash or grain steep?

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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by NASH » Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:35 am

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mr x wrote:
keithforbes wrote:Still didn't answer my question about oats adding to head and mouth feel
Well, if you add a sock, it will add sock character. Is that what you really need? I didn't find need to add turbidity to the beer (with wheat) for head, when it really wasn't necessary. As far as mouthfeel, not something I'm looking to add that way in a IIPA.

I think Keith is brewing with extract and steeping grains. He's a partial grain brewer ATM. I wonder if it's something that has benefits in partial grain brewing?
Depends, if you want all your beers to be oatmeal beer then yes, it helps :lol:

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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by GuingesRock » Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:46 am

Oatmeal is very good for you :)
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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by Keith » Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:38 pm

Yea I currently brew extract and steep grains. Just moved from boxed kits over to creating my own. Eventually want to move into All Grain once I get a bit more space, $$$, and experience. The above is great. Going to look at the BJCP study material and read through it all. Try to piece it together and increase my knowledge this way.

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Post by berley » Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:13 pm

Hoping to brew a clone attempt of Maine Beer Company's MO... a very tasty American Pale Ale. I'll be happy if I can manage something half as good as that beer!
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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by AllanMar » Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:33 pm

berley wrote:Hoping to brew a clone attempt of Maine Beer Company's MO... a very tasty American Pale Ale. I'll be happy if I can manage something half as good as that beer!
Been planning to do the same soon, any chance you'd share your recipe?

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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by berley » Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:43 pm

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berley wrote:Hoping to brew a clone attempt of Maine Beer Company's MO... a very tasty American Pale Ale. I'll be happy if I can manage something half as good as that beer!
Been planning to do the same soon, any chance you'd share your recipe?
Of course! Don't have it completely confirmed yet, but just about there (just have to go over it once more and maybe make a minor adjustment). Probably going to brew it Tuesday; remind me to send it to you then (or check out my blog shortly afterwards, I should have it posted there by the end of the week).
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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by NASH » Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:29 pm

keithforbes wrote:Yea I currently brew extract and steep grains. Just moved from boxed kits over to creating my own. Eventually want to move into All Grain once I get a bit more space, $$$, and experience. The above is great. Going to look at the BJCP study material and read through it all. Try to piece it together and increase my knowledge this way.

Thanks everyone.
Good stuff. Lots or reading and learning to do, it's never-ending which is really what makes this the worlds best hobby or job, you never stop learning. When you think you've learned something they come out with new theories that sometimes blows previous ideas away. Beer is a mysterious beast to say the least.

As for the oatmeal, it really should be mashed so you're not adding starch to your brew. It's deficient of enzymatic power to do the conversion with the grain-steep method, partial mash would work with it :cheers2:
Oats are wonderful in a porter or stout. Oatmeal lends a smooth, silky mouthfeel and a creaminess to a stout that must be tasted to be understood. Oats are available whole, steel-cut (i.e. grits), rolled, and flaked. Rolled and flaked oats have had their starches gelatinized (made soluble) by heat and pressure, and are most readily available as "Instant Oatmeal" in the grocery store. Whole oats and "Old Fashioned Rolled Oats" have not had the degree of gelatinization that Instant have had and must be cooked before adding to the mash. "Quick" oatmeal has had a degree of gelatinization but does benefit from being cooked before adding to the mash. Cook according to the directions on the box (but add more water) to ensure that the starches will be fully utilized. Use 0.5-1.5 lb. per 5 gal batch. Oats need to be mashed with barley malt (and its enzymes) for conversion.
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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by gm- » Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:30 pm

Some good discussion guys, you never stop learning in this "hobby". I have cut wheat from my APAs and IPAs, but for some reason I kept it in my go to IIPA. I will skip it in the batch that I am making tomorrow and see if it makes a difference :cheers:

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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by Keith » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:47 am

Great info on this Nash, I was looking around online when adding oats to my recipe and didn't fine the above, just found it would add a smooth body to my beer as mentioned. Didn't know it couldn't be steeped. and I agree with GM, great discussion in this thread, loving it.

As for the comment, great career or hobby as it is always evolving, I can't agree more. I get bored with routine tasks, I love how this has been keeping me on my toes.

Appreciate everyone's guidance and input. :cheers2: to a passion we all share!
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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by Keith » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:12 am

I'm acquiring a few more kegs tomorrow and need to brew 7 batches of beer to get my inventory filled up. I haven't put on bottles for a long while and those are sitting empty, and 2 kegs are about to run dry with a 3rd already empty.

I have a fresh Sweet Cherry Porter on deck which I don't expect to run dry anytime soon, and below are the 5 I have planned. Any suggestions on styles to fill out the last 2 kegs. I'm looking something flavorful, but not overly bold or heavy.

Smoked Red
Black IPA
Belgium IPA
Hefeweizen
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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by CartoonCod » Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:48 am

I recommend trying a british mild (http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style11.php). It's something different that you can't buy around here. I've made the BCS recipe with great results.

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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by LeafMan66_67 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:17 am

I've done a couple of mild's with 3oz of late addition Cascade that pack a ton of flavour in a low ABV package. Not traditional by any means, but a nice session beer.
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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by GAM » Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:23 am

I know I beat the drum on Milds, but it is a great session/house beer. Getting malt and hop flavour is not hat hard. I recommend brewing a known recipie and "tweeking" it to your taste.

You can make a BudMillerCoors type beer with this ABV target too.

I like to keep the co2 level low but you don't have to.

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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by LeafMan66_67 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:33 am

Hoping to brew a Weizen on Saturday for the Garrison brew off.
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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by Keith » Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:39 am

Mild sounds interesting. I'll want to go more towards the copper side I think, want another amber beer. And this will be a flavor profile I won't have on tap. I'm half tempted to put on a lawn mower beer Sandy, nothing better on a hot day! :cheers2: Thanks for the suggestions gentlemen.
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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by GAM » Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:53 am

77% Pale
4.5%

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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by GAM » Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:57 am

GAM wrote:82% Pale
4.5% Aromatic,Crystal 60,Choc and Victory
CTZ 12.8 IBU @60
Cascade 6.2 IBU @30
Cascade1.6 IBU @5

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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by Keith » Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:59 am

That's the Mild? I need to research a Extract recipe.
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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by redoubt » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:12 pm

Keith, do you have BCS? If not, here's the extract recipe for the mild:

Extract:
English Pale Ale LME (3.5 L) - 5lbs or 80%

Steeping Grains:
Crystal 60 - .5lbs or 8%
Crystal 120 - 6oz or 6%
Pale Chocolate Male (200 L) - .25lbs or 4%
Black Patent (525 L) - 2oz or 2%

Hops:
Kent Goldings %5 AA, 60 min - .85oz / 17.4 IBU

OG 1.036
FG 1.011
ABV 3.2%

Lots of room for fun tweaking!

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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by Keith » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:15 pm

What is BCS? I'm not familiar with it?
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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by GAM » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:16 pm

Do a small mash of some grain and add extract for the boil. There are lots of websites to convert and allow for hop usage.

Something like
3kg LME
.5kg Pale
.25 Aromatic,Crystal 60,Choc and Victory
CTZ 15g @30
Cascade 40g @15
Cascade 30g @5

From a quick Beersmith translation.

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Re: What's everyone making this weekend?

Post by Keith » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:17 pm

oh and thanks for the recipe! :cheers2:
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