Hop Extract

[AllanMar]

I've been looking in to brewing a Pliny the Elder clone, BCS has a pretty popular clone but I was also having a look at this blog (seems to be lots of other good stuff on there):
http://www.bertusbrewery.com/2013/08/pl ... ne-30.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This one (and the original apparently) both use CO2 hop extract (not isoHop). Anyone ever used it? Where did you get it from? The only reasonable source I've found so far is the one he mentions on his site:
http://www.bertusbrewery.com/2012/11/bu ... tract.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Seems like it would be nice for big hop beers without the big hop mess.

[Jayme]

I believe IsoHop is a CO2 extract. From More Beers website:

Our ISOHOP bitterness extract is a one ounce solution of pure Isomerized Alpha Acids that have been separated from the other oils found in hops via liquid CO2. Now you can easily correct bitterness levels in any beer. IsoHop is great for helping you tweak and formulate future recipes.

That said, I've never used it, but I imagine it would potentially accomplish the goal... Unless the purpose of the extract is for flavour instead of bitterness.

[berley]

I've used it, to brew the Pliny the Younger clone from the same website, and for a Modern Times Fortunate Islands clone.

I bought a can of it from Yakima Valley Hops and put it into 10 mL syringes, similar to the method he uses in the link. Note: the stuff is a real bitch to suck into syringes, even after heating!

[AllanMar]

How did the clone turn out? Did the hop extract seem worth the effort?

[berley]

The Younger clone was actually disappointing; despite the copious amount of hops, I didn't find it hoppy enough! I blame me, not the recipe. I don't keg, so I think the beer may have become oxidized with all the dry-hop additions. Crap! The Fortunate Islands clone was amazing, but of course that was due to the huge amount of Citra and Amarillo used.

The extract is really just to get a lot of bitterness without a lot of hop sludge leftover in the kettle...so, if you don't mind the mess, using regular hop pellets or whatever is fine. The extract definitely doesn't make the beer better; just easier to add 40 mL of extract than 8 oz of a high AA% hop at the beginning of the boil.

[AllanMar]

I thought I recall reading something from Russian River about they use it avoid getting a grassy taste from that amount of hops. Although I've never noticed much of one (i've also yet to use that amount of hops).

[GillettBreweryCnslt]

Hey Allan,

I don't have access to the extract from any of my current suppliers. I'll keep an eye out and let you know if I find a way to bring it in.

Thanks

[AllanMar]

Hey Allan,

I don't have access to the extract from any of my current suppliers. I'll keep an eye out and let you know if I find a way to bring it in.

Thanks

Dave,

While I haven't been able to confirm it, Ive read about people getting it from NCM? Any chance you could check in to it, love to get a few cans on the group buy if so.

[AllanMar]

Got some from Yakima Valley along with a bunch of other hops I couldn't find elsewhere.
Going to try it in this first: http://www.bertusbrewery.com/2013/08/pl ... ne-30.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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[adams81]

Is it from one type of hop?

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[AllanMar]

You can get it by type, but this is the "generic" variety so I have no idea. Plan to use for bittering primarily so I'm not too concerned about it.

[adams81]

Looking forward to hearing how it tastes!

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[dean2k]

How do you use it?

[AllanMar]

Just like regular hops, in the boil.

Theres also another type of extract called IsoHop which from my understanding is basically liquid biterness (dont need to boil to bitter). In theory sounds like you could bitter in your glass. I'd be interested to try that sometime as well.