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Bishops Cellar

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:49 pm
by Jimmy
They have an online ordering section with free shipping until December 18th, however, it looks like the price of beer is higher than in store (?).

https://bishopscellar.com/beer/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think this is new - I don't recall ever looking at beer on their website..

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:38 am
by chalmers
Beer's been there, but not part of their full database. It was a "feature", with some hand-selected bottles mentioned on the site.

Glad to see they've made these changes! As the only independent private beer store, maybe it's time to look again at a mutually-beneficial relationship? They were open to something like that previously, where we'd help them with beer/brewery selection, with the understanding that we'd get first crack at some interesting beers they were able to bring in.

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:43 am
by pet lion
Looked up the ones I last bought there and they are the same price as in store.

They don't indicate what is a single bottle and what is a six pack. They should fix that.

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:42 am
by Keith
chalmers wrote:Beer's been there, but not part of their full database. It was a "feature", with some hand-selected bottles mentioned on the site.

Glad to see they've made these changes! As the only independent private beer store, maybe it's time to look again at a mutually-beneficial relationship? They were open to something like that previously, where we'd help them with beer/brewery selection, with the understanding that we'd get first crack at some interesting beers they were able to bring in.
I'd help where I can, not sure what I can offer, but I am sure I can spare some time. :cheers2:

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:43 am
by jeffsmith
I placed an order last night just to see how everything works. Really can't beat free shipping!

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:51 am
by Jimmy
pet lion wrote:Looked up the ones I last bought there and they are the same price as in store.

They don't indicate what is a single bottle and what is a six pack. They should fix that.
Maybe so. I always thought they were selling Red Racer IPA for $3.50/can, but it's listed as $4.85 on the website.

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:52 pm
by BobbyOK
jeffsmith wrote:I placed an order last night just to see how everything works. Really can't beat free shipping!
Especially for folks outside of HRM to get their hands on stuff. Mind you, if the NSLC isn't going to allow any more private stores outside of Halifax then the private stores here should be allowed to ship to any NSLC store, free of charge.

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:00 pm
by jeffsmith
BobbyOK wrote:
jeffsmith wrote:I placed an order last night just to see how everything works. Really can't beat free shipping!
Especially for folks outside of HRM to get their hands on stuff. Mind you, if the NSLC isn't going to allow any more private stores outside of Halifax then the private stores here should be allowed to ship to any NSLC store, free of charge.
Agreed. I hope this continues. There's a lot of stuff that gets released that I either have to bug someone to pick up, or miss out on completely. I know I'm not alone in that either.

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:38 pm
by Toni
Just took a peek. Unless it's dropped in price, looks like U-889 is listed at last years price.

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:30 pm
by muise
Jimmy wrote:
pet lion wrote:Looked up the ones I last bought there and they are the same price as in store.

They don't indicate what is a single bottle and what is a six pack. They should fix that.
Maybe so. I always thought they were selling Red Racer IPA for $3.50/can, but it's listed as $4.85 on the website.
I picked up a can of the Red Racer ESB yesterday for $3.50 and it's also listed as $4.85.

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:14 pm
by jeffsmith
Received my shipment from Bishops today. Arrived via Someday courier. The box was slightly beat up, but everything inside was packed well and in very good shape. There was lots of packing material on top of the bottles/cans as well, even though the photo doesn't show it.

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:32 pm
by GAM
Did you pay more for delivery then the beer?

Sandy

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:33 pm
by jeffsmith
GAM wrote:Did you pay more for delivery then the beer?

Sandy
Free shipping until December 18th. So, not a dime.

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:34 pm
by dean2k
Interesting. I can only find that they'll ship for free to NS, but does anyone know if they can ship at all to NB?

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:11 pm
by jdobbs
I believe it is illegal to ship across the province border.

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:58 pm
by Keith
Just placed my order, this is a very convenient service. :cheers2:

Brooklyn East India Pale Ale x1
Flying Monkeys Hoptical Illusion x3
Flying Monkeys Smashbomb Atomic x3
Muskoka Brewery Twice as Mad Tom x2
Red Racer India Pale Ale x1
St. Ambroise Double India Pale Ale x2

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:07 pm
by jeffsmith
dean2k wrote:Interesting. I can only find that they'll ship for free to NS, but does anyone know if they can ship at all to NB?
Ship it to my house if you want.

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:34 pm
by BobbyOK
dean2k wrote:Interesting. I can only find that they'll ship for free to NS, but does anyone know if they can ship at all to NB?
I don't think they're allowed, but "free" shipping is limited to NS. Wouldn't hurt to call and ask if they'll ship elsewhere though. Pretty sure Premier used to (previous owners).

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:41 pm
by canuck
BobbyOK wrote:
dean2k wrote:Interesting. I can only find that they'll ship for free to NS, but does anyone know if they can ship at all to NB?
I don't think they're allowed, but "free" shipping is limited to NS. Wouldn't hurt to call and ask if they'll ship elsewhere though. Pretty sure Premier used to (previous owners).
Premier wouldn't (and still won't) ship outside of NS.

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:09 pm
by toddthebeerdude
here is a good article from earlier this year on the legalities of booze shipping. Only 3 provinces can buy online from out of province

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/mark-milke ... 66398.html

Break the Law this Fall: Buy Wine From Another Province

If you live in British Columbia, Manitoba or Nova Scotia, raise a toast to the enlightened politicians who rule over you. In those provinces, consumers face no legal or regulatory barriers to mutually consenting commerce with wineries elsewhere in Canada. Their consumers can buy wine from anywhere in the country, either in-person or online. It is a guaranteed federal right but one which many provinces resist.

Some background here is helpful. In Canada, reforming regulations and laws that harm consumer choice is a Sisyphean task. But the effort was helped two years back by Dan Albas, a federal MP from Penticton, deep in the heart of B.C. wine country.

Albas, introduced Bill C-311 in 2012 (since passed by Parliament) that amended a 1928 federal law prohibited transporting "intoxicating liquors" across provincial borders. That law, the Importation of Intoxicating Liquors Act, sprang from post-Prohibition era requests from provincial governments that feared booze and wanted more control over alcohol sales. That meant wine could not be transported across provincial borders by consumers; technically, those consumers broke the law.

The Albas amendment changed that for wine. And earlier this year, the federal government further amended the 1928 law to include beer and spirits to the list of items now allowed across provincial borders. The only caveat is that wine, beer and spirits must be intended for personal and not commercial use.

Thus, the federal government has corrected a Prohibition-era policy. But most provinces, with the exception of B.C., Manitoba and Nova Scotia, still attempt via law and regulation to control the flow of alcoholic beverages after they leave the vineyard, brewery and distillery.

For example, in Ontario, no law or regulation prevents consumers from importing wine from another province. But as Vancouver lawyer Mark Hicken has noted at http://www.winelaw.ca" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, the Liquor Control Board of Ontario (LCBO) has a "policy statement" that forbids Ontarians from importing wine except where personally carried. Hicken doubts the policy, lacking legal force, would stand up in court.

In Quebec, consumers can bring back nine litres of wine from some other province, but cannot have wine shipped to them.

Alberta was already wide-open after the Albas bill passed in 2012. Albertans could transport wine across a provincial boundary or have it shipped. Then, in a fit of political protectionism, the province pared back its regulatory allowance. By policy decree, Albertans are allowed to import as much as they want for personal use "as long as the liquor accompanies the individual."

Newfoundland and Labrador has the most protectionist policy and enforces it. The province allows residents of the Rock to carry in just 1.14 litres--less than two bottles. Newfoundlanders who dare import wine from another province may be subject to a sting operation. FedEx, for example, recently suspended all its inter-provincial wine shipments after it was charged for transporting B.C. wine into Newfoundland and Labrador.

Given federal changes in 2012 and 2014, no federal law or regulation prevents Canadians from "importing" wine (beer or spirits) from another province for personal use. Insofar as some provincial governments attempt to block the free flow of goods between provinces, they act contrary to the practice and spirit of free trade. That's troubling in a country created in part to encourage wide-open commerce across provincial boundaries.

Canadians have always been "allowed" to grow, sell, buy and transport grapes, barley, and hops--some of the ingredients used in the creation of wine, whisky and beer--right across Canada. So it was odd that consumers were forbidden from shipping the end product if manufactured in another province.

The federal government, at least, has corrected its 1920s-era prohibition for consumers who want to transport or ship beer, wine and spirits. But for the full effect of that change, Canadians must apparently wait for most provinces to embrace the examples set by Nova Scotia, Manitoba and B.C.

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:19 pm
by dean2k
I figured the rules that declare cross-border shipping to be illegal would be clearly noted on the website. But ya know.... sometimes product gets mislabeled in the mail. ;)
jeffsmith wrote: Ship it to my house if you want.
I'm wondering how management would feel about booze getting shipped to a gov't address?

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:34 am
by akr71
dean2k wrote:I figured the rules that declare cross-border shipping to be illegal would be clearly noted on the website. But ya know.... sometimes product gets mislabeled in the mail. ;)
jeffsmith wrote: Ship it to my house if you want.
I'm wondering how management would feel about booze getting shipped to a gov't address?
Does management have to know? I've sent out beer to competitions from the office. It should be regarded as every other personal package that gets shipped here.

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:40 am
by Keith
I've had so much beer related stuff shipped to my work it's unreal (including 78lbs of hops and 2 burners haha). Eileen actually loves it, she gets to hear about what I'm up to and has taken a real interest to it.

Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:02 pm
by akr71
^ I think what Dean is most concerned about is that our place of work is a government office. Personality, common sense and a sense of humor must be checked at the door...

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Re: Bishops Cellar

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:32 pm
by dean2k
akr71 wrote:^ I think what Dean is most concerned about is that our place of work is a government office. Personality, common sense and a sense of humor must be checked at the door...
^^^ Yeah. This. And there are certain players whom I simply do not trust.