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Bill Spurr - idiot or incompetent

Post by mr x » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:55 am

SPURR: Great dining awaits 2 Doors Down
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There are restaurant openings, and there are events.

And a restaurant opening by Craig Flinn is an event. Since he threw open 2 Doors Down last month, Flinn’s been packing them in here, averaging 80-100 covers for lunch, with lineups not uncommon in the evening.

The name comes from the restaurant’s proximity to Flinn’s flagship, Chives, and in keeping with the theme, the restaurant’s most interesting decor touch is the tables, made from old doors reclaimed from farms throughout the Maritimes and brought back to life at Rusty Hinges in the Hydrostone Market.

A group of six struggled to describe the look of the rest of the restaurant, calling it modern, muted and contemporary, before settling on interesting. Behind the scenes, the most expensive part of converting the space from the restaurant that was here before was the purchase of a very large plate warmer to ensure food is hot when it arrives at the table.

Le Caveau chef Jason Lynch once told me he and Flinn are equally obsessed when it comes to hot plates. Another sign of Flinn’s attention to detail can be found in his spaghetti and meatballs. The spaghetti is made in a copperhead pasta machine, so the outside is not as smooth as most pastas, which means the sauce clings to all the tiny grooves and rough spots on each noodle. As a result, you’re not left with a pool of sauce at the bottom of the bowl.

During cooking, the spaghetti is blanched, then finished by being cooked in the sauce, giving each strand a pink/orange hue. The meatballs are cooked sous vide in the sauce, so they’re extremely tender and the flavour of the sauce permeates throughout. That’s how spaghetti and meatballs is worth $17, and how a chef is different than you and me.

Caesar salad is made with kale instead of romaine and the lamb shank poutine is garnished not with traditional bacon bits, but chunks of lamb bellies from Wood ‘n Hart, which are cured in house.

Those are the things I learned on my first visit, so I was pretty pumped to host a party of six for supper this Monday.

We’ve had only excellent service at Chives, and the same is true so far at 2 Doors Down. Our waiter, Craig, capably answered every question, including those about the wine list, which includes seven N.S. varieties. Probably the only thing I don’t like about 2 Doors Down is the beer selection, which is comprised of three beers on tap, one from each of three microbreweries around the province. Kudos on the commitment to local, but if it’s possible to make beer pretentious, it’s been achieved here.

We had a bottle of Cheverie from Avondale Sky with our appetizers and a bottle of Phone Box from Luckett Vineyards with our mains, and enjoyed both.


My favourite appetizer was the polenta fries, in which polenta cakes are sliced, rolled in more corn meal and flash fried, then served with romesco - which is a Spanish sauce made from finely ground tomatoes, red peppers, onion, garlic, almonds and olive oil - for dipping. Also very popular was the roasted mushroom bruschetta, which sees grilled sourdough topped with local mushrooms and smoked ricotta from the valley. Not as successful: Spanish mussels. Some of the mussels tasted undercooked, some of the shells hadn’t opened, and the strong flavour of the sauce overwhelmed the taste of the shellfish.

That was strange, because once we received our mains, the mussels that came with each of two servings of Thai green curry vermicelli were significantly better. Noodles flavoured with coconut milk and green curry paste are also topped with Digby scallops, bok choy, bell peppers and really tiny coldwater shrimp. Both of the ladies who had it said they’d gladly order it again, but would ask for more scallops instead of those shrimpy shrimp.

Interestingly, buttermilk fried chicken is made with boneless chicken, sort of gourmet chicken tenders and comes with a hash made from sweet potato, corn and black beans, plus cornbread. From the vegetarian section of the menu, asparagus penne carbonara earned raves, with its sauce of Parmesan, cream and free range egg, and beefed up, so to speak, with smoked Acadian tofu and cherry tomatoes.

But the dish I found most tasty was the smoked pork chop, a beautiful piece of meat from Oulton’s farm, smoked enough that the flavour is evident but not overwhelming, and wonderfully tender. Topped with cran-apple chutney, it comes with fried macaroni and cheese and asparagus, and is well worth your attention.

The one thing I’d promised myself for this visit was that I was going to have the same dessert as on my first visit, a strawberry rhubarb cheesecake served in a mason jar. To think this dish might be even better when fresh strawberries become available is amazing, because it’s great now.

Supper for six, including wine, tax and a tip of 20 per cent to reflect the excellent service, was $355. The next time someone says restaurants can’t succeed downtown, go to 2 Doors Down. But go early to avoid lining up.
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Re: Bill Spurr - idiot or incompetent

Post by S-04 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:25 am

strawberry rhubarb cheesecake served in a mason jar
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Re: Bill Spurr - idiot or incompetent

Post by CorneliusAlphonse » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:34 am

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Re: Bill Spurr - idiot or incompetent

Post by mr x » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:39 am

He's got one fan anyway lmfao....
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Post by CorneliusAlphonse » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:40 am

Oops. The "correct" vote was me, I meant "both idiot and incompetent are correct." my bad
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Re: Bill Spurr - idiot or incompetent

Post by mr x » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:41 am

hahahahahhahaaaaaaaa :slap:
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Re: Bill Spurr - idiot or incompetent

Post by brufrog » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:45 am

Bill isn't a bad guy but he needs to stop talking about wine and beer, and stick to the food. He doesn't get it and he knows it.
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Post by mr x » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:56 am

My problem is the non-linear thinking. The 'local' beer is pretentious but the wine is not?

What I'm hearing is 'I drink Keith's', therefor this craft list is bad. If the thinking is that biased, it raises questions about his objectiveness about the food reviews.
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Post by brufrog » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:17 am

mr x wrote:My problem is the non-linear thinking. The 'local' beer is pretentious but the wine is not?

What I'm hearing is 'I drink Keith's', therefor this craft list is bad. If the thinking is that biased, it raises questions about his objectiveness about the food reviews.
Yes, his editor should catch that, really. It makes no sense. Like I said, he doesn't get it. He thinks Stella Light is the best beer out there. It's odd, because he likes really flavourful food...but not beer.

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Post by S-04 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:20 am

I will say that honestly the menu does look pretty good:

http://www.go2doorsdown.com/wp-content/ ... dMay30.pdf

I could go for the Smoked NS Pork Chop or the Thai Green Curry Vermicelli and a pretentious local beer. :mmm:
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Post by mr x » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:23 am

brufrog wrote:The Chronicle Herald hired me to write beer recos for his BBQ series this summer, which was a pleasant surprise. I didn't post here because, contrary to how it may seem sometimes, I don't enjoy ridicule. :bbq:
I don't see anybody getting outright ridicule here. What you will get is a variety of opinion, which is pretty much the opposite of what happens on social media.
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S-04 wrote:I will say that honestly the menu does look pretty good:

http://www.go2doorsdown.com/wp-content/ ... dMay30.pdf

I could go for the Smoked NS Pork Chop or the Thai Green Curry Vermicelli and a pretentious local beer. :mmm:
The menu actually sounds better than Chives. I will say that they could probably go with more than 3 beers, but it's better than nothing to start, so long as one of them isn't Raspberry Wheat...
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Post by CorneliusAlphonse » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:55 am

Bills reviews have definitely gotten better since his health issues, he isn't focused solely on fresh French fries and huge portions anymore.
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Post by brufrog » Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:13 am

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brufrog wrote:The Chronicle Herald hired me to write beer recos for his BBQ series this summer, which was a pleasant surprise. I didn't post here because, contrary to how it may seem sometimes, I don't enjoy ridicule. :bbq:
I don't see anybody getting outright ridicule here. What you will get is a variety of opinion, which is pretty much the opposite of what happens on social media.
I was just kidding, Robert. I enjoy a certain degree of verbal abuse online and otherwise, as long as others can take it back. Being criticized doesn't bother me all that much, as it is an expected part of the job, and you have to look at the source. As for opinions, well, yes, that is why this forum is useful. I am quite sick of the plethora of people online who say everything they drink or eat is awesome, when they clearly have no clue. Many are just fans, and hobbyists, but others are paid by the companies themselves to be cheerleaders, but post under the guise of being independent bloggers/journalists. Then they get RTs and FB shares from the companies and industry associations. It's a really cheap PR technique. All this noise distracts consumers from some of the negative reviews (or, more accurately, lack of gushing praise) from qualified critics.
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Post by S-04 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:39 am

Craig: The flip-side of that is that at least the uninformed plethora of social networking average Joes is by and large giving an honest opinion. I worked in newspaper for years, and I have seen a lot of advertorial CRAP masquerading as journalism. The problem that I see is that reviews (in some publications) often have lots of "gushing praise", for businesses that buy advertising. This is not an attack against you - I'm sure your work is real, otherwise you wouldn't be here talking shop. But I have seen too much to be convinced that just because something is in print means that the person who wrote it actually believes it.
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Post by mr x » Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:45 am

I find social networking to be completely worthless. It's designed for people to hug, kiss and be happy with each other and what each other have to say.
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mr x wrote:I find social networking to be completely worthless. It's designed for people to hug, kiss and be happy with each other and what each other have to say.
:spilly: Then again, this forum is a form of social networking. :spilly:
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Post by mr x » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:18 pm

It is so. But it also has a variety of opinions, which is sorely lacking on the other platforms.
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Post by adams81 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:37 pm

mr x wrote:My problem is the non-linear thinking. The 'local' beer is pretentious but the wine is not?

What I'm hearing is 'I drink Keith's', therefor this craft list is bad. If the thinking is that biased, it raises questions about his objectiveness about the food reviews.
I agree with this. Just because a beer is local does not make it pretentious, and this seems to be his only qualifier. If he had said the list was short and may not please everyone I couldn't argue.

I wonder if his opinion on "local" is restricted to beer only with all of the drive for locally sourced ingredients in restaurants. Chives does for sure and, though I haven't read the menu, I would be surprised if 2 Doors Down doesn't carry on that theme . Certainly that alone doesn't make them pretentious!

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Post by benwedge » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:02 pm

Mainstreet did a piece outing him for extortion in January. I've never really been a fan, though his reviews of the food are usually fine.

As for the local cheerleaders and people who say nothing but good things, I've ranted about them before, and won't really get in to it now. They generally have no idea what they're talking about. If they do, they can say more than "best burger everrrrrr!!!!!111!!!!" alongside your #instagram #photo #with #300 #fucking #hashtags #blue #pink #burger #delicious #foodiesofinstagram #foodie #foods #hipster #cool #canada #buffalo #fuckinglayoffwiththehashtagsalready.
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Post by jeffsmith » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:05 pm

benwedge wrote:As for the local cheerleaders and people who say nothing but good things, I've ranted about them before, and won't really get in to it now. They generally have no idea what they're talking about. If they do, they can say more than "best burger everrrrrr!!!!!111!!!!" alongside your #instagram #photo #with #300 #fucking #hashtags #blue #pink #burger #delicious #foodiesofinstagram #foodie #foods #hipster #cool #canada #buffalo #fuckinglayoffwiththehashtagsalready.
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Post by brufrog » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:40 pm

benwedge wrote:Mainstreet did a piece outing him for extortion in January. I've never really been a fan, though his reviews of the food are usually fine.

As for the local cheerleaders and people who say nothing but good things, I've ranted about them before, and won't really get in to it now. They generally have no idea what they're talking about. If they do, they can say more than "best burger everrrrrr!!!!!111!!!!" alongside your #instagram #photo #with #300 #fucking #hashtags #blue #pink #burger #delicious #foodiesofinstagram #foodie #foods #hipster #cool #canada #buffalo #fuckinglayoffwiththehashtagsalready.
Oh, so I'm not the only one who noticed? I feel better now. What's worst is when these sorts of people get invited to judge things or have their gushy praise quoted on websites etc. Companies love using free content and labour, rather than paying for qualified people. Because it's free!

As for the bulk of people on twitter, well, sure, most are being honest. I could give you my honest opinion on fashion and middle east politics too, but it would still be useless.
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Re: Bill Spurr - idiot or incompetent

Post by sleepyjamie » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:30 pm

If the place only had macrobreweries (like most places in HRM) would they be considered pretentious?
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Re: Bill Spurr - idiot or incompetent

Post by mr x » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:39 pm

Another thing that bother me about this article is the spaghetti description.
During cooking, the spaghetti is blanched, then finished by being cooked in the sauce, giving each strand a pink/orange hue. The meatballs are cooked sous vide in the sauce, so they’re extremely tender and the flavour of the sauce permeates throughout. That’s how spaghetti and meatballs is worth $17, and how a chef is different than you and me.
The last way in the world I want meat cooked is sous vide. Without being a chef, I can guarantee that I can make better spaghetti meatballs than this with lightly smoked meatballs that have been caramelized on a grill. There's no way a braised meatball could compete. My 2c.
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Post by adams81 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:46 pm

sleepyjamie wrote:If the place only had macrobreweries (like most places in HRM) would they be considered pretentious?
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