A note from Authentic Seacoast

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Re: A note from Authentic Seacoast

Post by Brewnoser » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:45 pm

Oh. I am totally with you there X.

I found some tonight. Review soon.
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Re: A note from Authentic Seacoast

Post by Brewnoser » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:14 pm

Ok. Hi tech reaction and assessment or Rare Bird Pale Ale. 7% abv.

Pale amber. Not infected. Slight grainy astringency. Low hopping. Low head retention. Faint molasses candy sweetness.

Mostly harmless.
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Re: A note from Authentic Seacoast

Post by LiverDance » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:23 pm

Brewnoser wrote:Ok. Hi tech reaction and assessment or Rare Bird Pale Ale. 7% abv.

Pale amber. Not infected. Slight grainy astringency. Low hopping. Low head retention. Faint molasses candy sweetness.

Mostly harmless.
I found it a little under carbed but they may be leaning toward english style?
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Re: A note from Authentic Seacoast

Post by Brewnoser » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:24 pm

Also noticing some spicy phenols as I consume it. 7% is high. Showing as a slight burning sensation in back of throat.
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Re: A note from Authentic Seacoast

Post by Brewnoser » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:26 pm

Leaning towards Boreal Forte comparing to other beers I've had
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Re: A note from Authentic Seacoast

Post by Jayme » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:12 pm

When I visited the brewery in the summer, I did not care for the pale ale at all - not infected but definitely phenolic and just blah. The stout was vastly better, but I found it deteriorated in the bottle fast.

What sort of bottles do they sell it in at NSLC?


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Re: A note from Authentic Seacoast

Post by LiverDance » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:57 pm

Jayme wrote:When I visited the brewery in the summer, I did not care for the pale ale at all - not infected but definitely phenolic and just blah. The stout was vastly better, but I found it deteriorated in the bottle fast.

What sort of bottles do they sell it in at NSLC?


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Re: A note from Authentic Seacoast

Post by chalmers » Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:31 pm

The Stout is now on sale at Bishop's Cellar, $7 for 650mL bottle. Tons of coffee aroma, I did enjoy it more than the Pale Ale. But can't imagine I'll buy a lot at that price.

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Re: A note from Authentic Seacoast

Post by BobbyOK » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:01 pm

NASH wrote:
ajcarp wrote:
jherbin wrote:Agreed, hopefully they're able to hit their stride and pump out some good beer. With that kind of money you'd think they'd be able to afford a brewer with some knowledge and experience. I haven't tried the beer so I'll reserve judgement on that front.
They are using the brewer at Crannog in BC as their mentor/advisor. They came out and spent a lot of time out here training and working in the farm brewery. So I think they have access to plenty of knowledge and experience.

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They approached me for consulting last winter, which I was all game for, until....

A local BJCP brought me fresh growler fills of beer they were selling, it was terribly infected. Said judge was under their employ at the time and wrote up a detailed explanation of the infection problems with a few recommendations which I also signed. Number one on the list was to halt sales of the beer in its current state and to seek professional assistance with brewing processes asap. Their response was that the beer was fine and they would continue with sales as usual. I decided straight away not to play in that bowl of fish, not interested in that shit at all. I never heard from them again :lol:
Bought a 4 pack of the Pale Ale shortly after it came out. First and second bottles were fine. 3rd bottle last night was undrinkable. Solvent and rubber phenols. It is a rare occasion I'll dump something without trying to find a way to improve it (case in point, grapefruit juice and boring lager makes for a lovely IPA-like Radler), but this wasn't salvageable. Willing to offer up the last bottle to anyone looking to learn what those off flavours taste like.

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Re: New Ownership at Premier

Post by mr x » Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:36 pm

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For some reason ;) , she wouldn't crack open the Rare Bird Pumpkin beer so that she (and we) could try it. Wanted to try it out before dropping $8.75 on a bottle.
Hijack alert.

God almighty, WTF is it with breweries making seasonal/specialty beers before they learn to brew their staple with consistency... :roll:
At Alexander Keith's we follow the recipes first developed by the great brewmaster to the absolute letter. :wtf:

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Re: New Ownership at Premier

Post by Jimmy » Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:53 pm

mr x wrote:Hijack alert.

God almighty, WTF is it with breweries making seasonal/specialty beers before they learn to brew their staple with consistency... :roll:
What do you mean? We had a fantastic Rare Bird at Greg's the other night :)

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Re: New Ownership at Premier

Post by mr x » Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:05 pm

:lol:
At Alexander Keith's we follow the recipes first developed by the great brewmaster to the absolute letter. :wtf:

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Re: New Ownership at Premier

Post by Jimmy » Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:33 pm

It was actually pretty bad. I don't dump beer, and we dumped it.

I have had the Rare Bird before, though (yes, I'm setting you up here :lol:), and though it wasn't amazing, it didn't have an infection like the one shared between Becky, Greg, and myself. It was one dirty bird. (yes, I finished that setup in splendid fashion)

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Re: New Ownership at Premier

Post by mr x » Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:45 pm

I do want to try the coffee stout, hopefully it will be good. I kind of wish retailers would start giving the brewers hell when they are consistently inconsistent with their products.
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Re: New Ownership at Premier

Post by Keith » Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:31 pm

You can only put out a bad beer long enough before the consumer puts them out of business. they can either fix their product, or let the next brewer who takes control of their equipment fix it for them.
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Re: New Ownership at Premier

Post by Jayme » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:30 pm

Keith wrote:You can only put out a bad beer long enough before the consumer puts them out of business. they can either fix their product, or let the next brewer who takes control of their equipment fix it for them.
I couldn't agree more that what you're saying should be the case, but I couldn't agree less that it is not (at least not currently). There are a few breweries that come to mind with poor quality control that seem to be doing just fine and have been around for a while...
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Re: New Ownership at Premier

Post by mr x » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:53 pm

This.

For some reason, we seem to defy what I would think are the normal laws of business around these parts. I don't know why that is, other than that people just don't give a fuck.
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Re: New Ownership at Premier

Post by Keith » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:52 pm

I know for a fact I won't buy another Rarebird beer, at least not for a long while. Why would I risk wasting any more of my $$$ when I can get other beers for the same price that I know will be consistent. I haven't been able to drink it, I dumped 2 bottles, brought one to a meeting and have another in my fridge for an event sometime.
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Re: New Ownership at Premier

Post by vgoreham » Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:46 pm

Keith wrote:I know for a fact I won't buy another Rarebird beer, at least not for a long while. Why would I risk wasting any more of my $$$ when I can get other beers for the same price that I know will be consistent. I haven't been able to drink it, I dumped 2 bottles, brought one to a meeting and have another in my fridge for an event sometime.
Yeah, I tried one as well. Planned to split it with the wife but the septic tank got the lion's share. I won't personally be buying another until I hear of significant changes.

I think the reason we've lived with some mistakes is that there was a relative paucity of local breweries here. Now that things have change/are changing I think you'll see a couple breweries struggle and will have to significantly improve to stay open.

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Re: A note from Authentic Seacoast

Post by blacktip » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:55 pm

Just to pile on a bit...

I found that the Rare Bird 4-pack that I had was good within the first 4 weeks, and took a nose-dive on week 5, like crash-and-burn nose-dive. It got dumped.

I can't see myself taking a gamble on this in the 4-pack format again, when I can get bombers of Vicar's Cross.
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Re: New Ownership at Premier

Post by BobbyOK » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:14 am

mr x wrote:Posts moved from Premiere thread into appropriate thread.
chalmers wrote

For some reason ;) , she wouldn't crack open the Rare Bird Pumpkin beer so that she (and we) could try it. Wanted to try it out before dropping $8.75 on a bottle.
Hijack alert.

God almighty, WTF is it with breweries making seasonal/specialty beers before they learn to brew their staple with consistency... :roll:
Tried the pumpkin last night. Bottling date was 01/29/14 - roughly a week ago so how they got it in stores that quickly seems a bit of a mystery. But it's still showing signs of the same phenolic/solvent off-flavour as the Pale Ale I've had way too long. Something's not right.

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Re: A note from Authentic Seacoast

Post by mr x » Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:59 pm

This beer is supposedly on tap at Stillwell. It would be great to compare the bottle with the keg.
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Re: New Ownership at Premier

Post by Jimmy » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:41 pm

BobbyOK wrote:
mr x wrote:Posts moved from Premiere thread into appropriate thread.
chalmers wrote

For some reason ;) , she wouldn't crack open the Rare Bird Pumpkin beer so that she (and we) could try it. Wanted to try it out before dropping $8.75 on a bottle.
Hijack alert.

God almighty, WTF is it with breweries making seasonal/specialty beers before they learn to brew their staple with consistency... :roll:
Tried the pumpkin last night. Bottling date was 01/29/14 - roughly a week ago so how they got it in stores that quickly seems a bit of a mystery. But it's still showing signs of the same phenolic/solvent off-flavour as the Pale Ale I've had way too long. Something's not right.
Becky picked u a bottle of the pumpkin tonight; it's got that same plastic taste that the rare bird had.

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Re: A note from Authentic Seacoast

Post by jason.loxton » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:51 pm

I am at the third bad bottle of the Pale Ale. (I have yet to buy one, but I have a masochistic friend who keeps trying.) The first bottle was quite nice, and then three in a row with strong infection (the last one was not as far gone as those before, and was actually sort of nice, in a heffe sort of way, but wasn't remotely what they're going for.)

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Re: A note from Authentic Seacoast

Post by JFFB » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:23 am

I quite enjoy the coffee stout and the Full Steam coffee. Although, I've only had two bottles of the beer they were both pretty consistently delicious. The coffee was available at a cafe I frequented in Truro while I was living there. At only $1.50 for a large it was pretty good. But the take home and brew beans are way to expensive, I'd rather just get JavaBlend for a 5er less.

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