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Re: NB Liquor Private Order

Post by canuck » Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:57 pm

Araxi and I were at The Laundromat for a beer on Monday. Marky still had quite a bit of stuff leftover from the Brewer's Bash back in July. I gotta say, I was a little shocked at his pricing. I bought a few of the 1 litre bottles from Howe Sound (Devil's Elbow IPA and Baldwin & Cooper bitter) and they were only $4. He was charging $18 at the Laundromat. :o IMHO, that is way too much!! As a business person myself, I know that you have to make some money, but man, that's a little excessive. TBH, it kinda left a bad taste in my mouth.

But speaking of private orders, a couple of us here in the area placed an order for 24 Red Racer IPAs, 24 Mad Tom IPAs, and 24 Smashbomb Atomic IPAs. That was two weeks ago so I'm guessing that they will be arriving soon. :mebeer:

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Re: NB Liquor Private Order

Post by jeffsmith » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:00 pm

canuck wrote:As a business person myself, I know that you have to make some money, but man, that's a little excessive. TBH, it kinda left a bad taste in my mouth.
Yeah, that's sketchy. Not a big fan of that at all to be honest.

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Re: NB Liquor Private Order

Post by mr x » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:23 pm

Won't be dropping in there during this lifetime.

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Re: NB Liquor Private Order

Post by canuck » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:38 pm

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canuck wrote:As a business person myself, I know that you have to make some money, but man, that's a little excessive. TBH, it kinda left a bad taste in my mouth.
Yeah, that's sketchy. Not a big fan of that at all to be honest.
Yeah, it sure is. Like I mentioned earlier, I understand as a business owner that you need to make money........but price gouging like this is something that I really hate. Even if he sold them for $10, it's still 250% profit.

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Re: NB Liquor Private Order

Post by canuck » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:39 pm

mr x wrote:Won't be dropping in there during this lifetime.

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With Bruce's beers now available at Tide & Boar, I'm not so sure if I will be again either.
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Post by CurtisD » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:40 pm

Celtic Knot is now on tap at the Tide & Boar, so I'm all set. EDIT: Just see now Shane beat me to it....

Speaking of the Tide & Boar, while their pricing on larger format bottles was very high (Goose Island Sophie at $36?? WTF), I was shocked at how reasonable some of the regular bottles were. $7 for a Chimay Red or Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout....considering I'd have to be in another province to get those and still pay $4-$5 a bottle off the shelf, I thought that was quite reasonable.

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Post by jeffsmith » Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:05 pm

canuck wrote:With Bruce's beers now available at Tide & Boar, I'm not so sure if I will be again either.
^ This.

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Re: NB Liquor Private Order

Post by Araxi » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:04 pm

Yeah Shane it was truly appalling to see what he was charging for some of those beers that he got for 4 bux each. Too bad cuz it could be a good thing there. Thanks for the mentions too guys.

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Post by dean2k » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:11 pm

Yet another reason to hit the T&B. :cheers2:
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Re: NB Liquor Private Order

Post by PEIBeerGuy » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:36 pm

That Marky Markup is ridiculous. Howe Sound bottles are usually around $15 in NS specialty stores, but hoarding & overpricing? Bad karma.

Shane, that sounds like a great IPA order! Must inquire about Red Racer here...
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Re: NB Liquor Private Order

Post by mr x » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:13 pm

I didn't think the Howe Sound was that expensive. They used to sell the capped flip tops at Harvest Wine & Spirits, and maybe still do, but iirc, the price was closer to $10.

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Re: NB Liquor Private Order

Post by Rex Banner » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:31 pm

Araxi, I'd politely remind you of the old saying... "Don't bite the hand that feeds you".

This is directly from Canadian Beer News...

"He (Celtic Knot) will be brewing in 90 litre batches that will be released in kegs only, and will
initially be available exclusively at Marky’s Laundromat in Moncton."

You have every right to your own opinions, but using words like "appalling" are certainly
not going to do you any favours in negotiating for tap space (in my humble opinion) in the
future. You're an up and coming brewery with limited locations to offer your beer. I've enjoyed
your beer at the Laundromat, and I'd like to continue trying new styles as you introduce them.
We live in a small community and we should all respect the hard work of independent business
owners... such as yourself.

If I may come to the defence of Marky and the Laundromat... who have always treated me fairly...
the beer in question is a very large bottle (one litre I believe). I happen to feel that $18 for a litre
of beer is a very fair price regardless of what the establishment paid for it. If Marky had to purchase
this beer through "regular" channels, it would undoubtedly be priced MUCH higher. I also visited the
Laundromat recently and had the opportunity to enjoy a very nice IPA from Sawdust City (also from
the Brewers Bash) which I thought was very fairly priced.

Thank you.

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Re: NB Liquor Private Order

Post by CorneliusAlphonse » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:55 pm

One litre is a bit less than two pints of beer. Charging 9$ a pint is pretty steep.
planning: beer for my cousin's wedding
Fermenting: black ipa
Conditioning:
Kegged: barrel barleywine from 2014 - i think i still have this somewhere

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Re: NB Liquor Private Order

Post by jeffsmith » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:57 pm

I'm not sure that using one's first post in a community forum to wag one's finger at a member is really going to do any favours for oneself either.

One of the big issues around all of this is the fact that a number of NB beer lovers didn't get a chance to purchase much of the beer that was offered by the ANBL because it was snapped up to be sold at a commercial establishment. Also a 450% markup on product is a little much.

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Re: NB Liquor Private Order

Post by Jimmy » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:05 pm

It's funny how quick people come out of the woodwork when there are posts like this..just goes to show how many people we actually have lurking here :D

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Re: NB Liquor Private Order

Post by Jimmy » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:06 pm

I should also add that I have nothing useful to add :lol:

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Post by jeffsmith » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:07 pm

Jimmy wrote:I should also add that I have nothing useful to add :lol:
Thanks for the contribution Jimmy! :lol:

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Re: NB Liquor Private Order

Post by mr x » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:15 pm

If Bruce is making great beer, it'll find tap space. I'd say appalling doesn't go anywhere near far enough. It's his business, and he's free to charge what he wants. I'm not paying it. But the hoarding of stock from the beer event was a slap in the face to the beer community who support such events. I wouldn't expect high fives....

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Post by jeffsmith » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:18 pm

mr x wrote:But the hoarding of stock from the beer event was a slap in the face to the beer community who support such events.
Nail on the head. Also, because Bruce is running a business he's supposed to give up his own opinions and beliefs?

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Post by Jimmy » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:28 pm

jeffsmith wrote:
mr x wrote:But the hoarding of stock from the beer event was a slap in the face to the beer community who support such events.
Nail on the head. Also, because Bruce is running a business he's supposed to give up his own opinions and beliefs?
Yeah, that's definitely not cool. With the boom of the craft beer market, the options are only going to get better for people in the area - moves like that could certainly persuade customers to go elsewhere.

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Post by canuck » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:28 pm

Rex Banner wrote:Araxi, I'd politely remind you of the old saying... "Don't bite the hand that feeds you".

This is directly from Canadian Beer News...

"He (Celtic Knot) will be brewing in 90 litre batches that will be released in kegs only, and will
initially be available exclusively at Marky’s Laundromat in Moncton."

You have every right to your own opinions, but using words like "appalling" are certainly
not going to do you any favours in negotiating for tap space (in my humble opinion) in the
future. You're an up and coming brewery with limited locations to offer your beer. I've enjoyed
your beer at the Laundromat, and I'd like to continue trying new styles as you introduce them.
We live in a small community and we should all respect the hard work of independent business
owners... such as yourself.

If I may come to the defence of Marky and the Laundromat... who have always treated me fairly...
the beer in question is a very large bottle (one litre I believe). I happen to feel that $18 for a litre
of beer is a very fair price regardless of what the establishment paid for it. If Marky had to purchase
this beer through "regular" channels, it would undoubtedly be priced MUCH higher. I also visited the
Laundromat recently and had the opportunity to enjoy a very nice IPA from Sawdust City (also from
the Brewers Bash) which I thought was very fairly priced.

Thank you.
Good way to introduce yourself to Brewnosers. :crazy:
So you actually advocate the practice of buying something for $4 and selling it for $18 and consider it a sound business practice? Meanwhile, taking away something that should of been publicly available for the average person at a certain cost and not commercially sold with a 450% markup. IMHO, very bad business practices. As an upcoming brewery myself, I too find it "appalling".

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Re: NB Liquor Private Order

Post by Araxi » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:46 pm

Rex, thanks for your opinion but I am always one to call a spade a spade. I also have my opinion regardless of my beer being on tap at the Laundromat. Marky and I have a good relationship and I'm sure he would laugh and say the same thing "that's you opinion".
Btw, who are your anyway? reveal yourself.

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Re: NB Liquor Private Order

Post by Jayme » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:53 pm

If it helps, I didn't think the Howe sound was anything special when harvest wines used to carry it... Haha. So that is to say, you're not missing much.


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Re: NB Liquor Private Order

Post by mr x » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:53 pm

As a side note, I have no issue with people coming on board to express their opinion. This forum is expressly for open debate, not sugar coated crap. Even in their first post.

Not that the OP will get a lot of agreement on this one...




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Post by jeffsmith » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:57 pm

mr x wrote:As a side note, I have no issue with people coming on board to express their opinion. This forum is expressly for open debate, not sugar coated crap. Even in their first post.

Not that the OP will get a lot of agreement on this one...




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