Picaroon's Harvest

[Graham.C]

But acceptable in others. It's all about living up to expectations. However it can be a real problem when concentrations are way past the tasting threshold. No style calls for excessive amounts.

[dean2k]

Had my first bad experience with the 2013 Happy Hopyard batch and diacetyl. Wasn't butter, but more like an oily weirdness. I really enjoyed the 2012 Harvest Ales, and so I'm rather bummed out over this.

[Ladd]

Had my first bad experience with the 2013 Happy Hopyard batch and diacetyl. Wasn't butter, but more like an oily weirdness. I really enjoyed the 2012 Harvest Ales, and so I'm rather bummed out over this.

What was the batch number? A few weeks ago I had a couple bottles of batch# 2569, all Nugget hops from Happy Hopyard farm and it was pretty damn tasty.

[gm-]

Not had any diacetyl issues with the picaroon's I have had (almost exclusively the yippe ipa), need to get my hands on some of their harvest ale.

[dean2k]

Had my first bad experience with the 2013 Happy Hopyard batch and diacetyl. Wasn't butter, but more like an oily weirdness. I really enjoyed the 2012 Harvest Ales, and so I'm rather bummed out over this.

What was the batch number? A few weeks ago I had a couple bottles of batch# 2569, all Nugget hops from Happy Hopyard farm and it was pretty damn tasty.

2598 Happy Hopyard cascade. Going to do some more research right now

[dean2k]

Nope. Can't even drink it. Sad day.

[brufrog]

I enjoyed the latest one. No more diacetyl than is normal for them, I didn't think. That oily thing you noted was more likely due to the hops, from fresh hops. I always find wet hopped beers (and any beers using a ridiculous amount of late hopping) have a resinous, oily, grassy, vegetal, dope-like quality.

[dean2k]

.... That oily thing you noted was more likely due to the hops, from fresh hops. I always find wet hopped beers (and any beers using a ridiculous amount of late hopping) have a resinous, oily, grassy, vegetal, dope-like quality.

Huh. That may in fact be more appropriate to what I'm tasting. Thanks Craig.

[NASH]

That oily thing you noted was more likely due to the hops, from fresh hops. I always find wet hopped beers (xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) have a resinous, oily, grassy, vegetal, dope-like quality.

I call bullshit! Unless they used over 150-200kg of fresh hops in a 15 bbl batch. Vegetal; they certainly can be, not always, depends on the state of hops used really. Resinous, oily dopey are all good traits of any highly-hopped brew.

[mr x]

I would agree with the above statement.

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[dean2k]

All I know is that what I'm tasting is unlike anything they put out in last year's Harvest series and it's none to pleasing to my palette. It's hard for me to pour any beer down the drain. I've got one bottle left and someone is welcome to it.

[brufrog]

I didn't say that it was bad taste, Greg, just that this is a smell and taste I often get from highly late hopped or wet hopped beers. (ridiculous isn't meant as a negative descriptor - I could just as easily have said hugeniferous). So you are saying they probably didn't add enough to get any of that character? Would you say they are more likely vegetal simply due to unripe hops?