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Re: The rumor and random babble thread

Post by mr x » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:56 am

No problem from here, I'll check them out today. See if that's it on cost. I'll not get them if there is a deposit?
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Re: The rumor and random babble thread

Post by chalmers » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:13 pm

If we can figure out what to do with the syrup (Drink it somehow? Syrup wrestling at the Spring Event? Make our own 5-hour Energy Slop? etc), I'm in for one. Especially if there's no deposit to worry about, I'd imagine there will be a buyer for any/all of them.

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Post by mr x » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:18 pm

When did all become soda fans? Did you guys know how many hundreds of full kegs of syrup that were poured out on the keg buy? Lol
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Re: The rumor and random babble thread

Post by NASH » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:25 pm

If they are kegs they should be full of pop not syrup. Just sayin'

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Re: The rumor and random babble thread

Post by chalmers » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:28 pm

Thanks to TJ for the article.
The brewery will operate with a 4.7-hectolitre system and projects first-year production volumes to be between 80,000 litres and 120,000 litres of beer, the equivalent of about 800 cases of beer.
Take the middle ground, 100,000litres / 660mL bombers = 151,515 bottles. Either those are some big cases (189 bottles per case), or someone failed grade 2 math.
More importantly:
100,000litres / 470litre system = 213 brews during the year. This is probably doable, but probably not for a one-man operation, and unless he's got a serious warehouse full of fermenters.
The Canadian definition of a microbrewery is any operation that produces less than 300,000 hectolitres but more than more than 3,000 hectolitres of beer annually.
A microbrewery is (supposedly) defined as producing between 300,000 and 30,000,000 litres of beer. So this is (much) smaller than a microbrewery. Great reporting. As relevant: My cat's breath smells like cat food, news at 11.

I believe most of the facts in this story, except for any of the numbers. Except maybe the brewery size, and the fact that they are investing less than $100,000. Everything else is suspect to me. I blame the reporter, not Burbridge.

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Post by chalmers » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:30 pm

NASH wrote:If they are kegs they should be full of pop not syrup. Just sayin'

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Cool. Hopefully it's still drinkable.

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Post by vgoreham » Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:21 pm

chalmers wrote:
NASH wrote:If they are kegs they should be full of pop not syrup. Just sayin'

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Cool. Hopefully it's still drinkable.

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Re: The rumor and random babble thread

Post by mr x » Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:25 pm

Ok there was a $25 deposit, so I didn't do it. Not sure what the deal is, they seem to be using them here...???
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Post by erslar00 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:40 pm

Someone I know apparaently picked one up out of the basement of a S@WAY in new Brunswick in late 2009 or early 2010... it was a Pepsi one and had pop in it. It wasn't hooked up when it he took it so i don't know if it was just sitting around or was still in active use at that time. I was surprised because I thought they had all been decommissioned by that point. ??

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Post by CorneliusAlphonse » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:19 pm

When I was down at the metro centre last (about a year ago) I noticed that they still had corney kegs hooked up in their bar thing for pop. might've changed by now, but at least then they were using em..
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Post by mr x » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:11 pm

Quidi vidi doubling deposit on iceberg beer in order to get the blue bottles back.

Something about non-green beer on cbc mainstreet shortly.
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Post by mr x » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:58 pm

Mr. Titus doesn't believe in additives in the beer. Too bad, I hear green food coloring is high in gypsum and calcium chloride, hahahaha....

I kill me. :)
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Post by KMcK » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:18 pm

My very reliable source claims that Pepsi hasn't gotten rid of its kegs locally yet. The group buy must have been sourced from another region.
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Post by mr x » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:22 pm

Our GB was for coke. Strangely, when Coke switched to boxed format, they refused to let Cash&Carry sell their product anymore.
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Post by NASH » Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:36 pm

Pepsi still uses the kegs in the Maritimes and are actually short-handed on them since they don't have stock piles of them to dip into from the rest of the country :cheers2:

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Post by NASH » Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:55 pm

chalmers wrote:
NASH wrote:

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Awesome. Whichever day works best for you, I'll be awaiting your arrival :cheers3:

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Re: The rumor and random babble thread

Post by derek » Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:40 am

chalmers wrote:
The brewery will operate with a 4.7-hectolitre system and projects first-year production volumes to be between 80,000 litres and 120,000 litres of beer, the equivalent of about 800 cases of beer.
Take the middle ground, 100,000litres / 660mL bombers = 151,515 bottles.

.... As relevant: My cat's breath smells like cat food, news at 11.

I believe most of the facts in this story, except for any of the numbers.
The numbers are fairly close if we just assume they slipped a decimal point and it's 8,000 to 12,000l (well, 6,000 to 12,000).

I don't understand, though, why you'd want to get close enough to a cat to smell its breath?
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Post by TimG » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:53 pm

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Post by akr71 » Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:29 pm

I can’t afford to implement the zero emissions model out of the gate so the first step is to establish a brewery that makes great beer that people want to buy. Often people forget that business sustainability is part of environmental sustainability and not in conflict
I wish him all the best. It doesn't sound so pie-in-sky & sounds like he knows its going to be a lot of work. More choice is a good thing.
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Post by KMcK » Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:44 pm

akr71 wrote:
I can’t afford to implement the zero emissions model out of the gate so the first step is to establish a brewery that makes great beer that people want to buy. Often people forget that business sustainability is part of environmental sustainability and not in conflict
I wish him all the best. It doesn't sound so pie-in-sky & sounds like he knows its going to be a lot of work. More choice is a good thing.
He hasn't supplied a zero emissions model, he supplied a zero waste model. His brewery can't be zero emissions unless he captures and sequesters all the CO2 produced during brewing and sells his beer flat.
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Post by derek » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:07 pm

KMcK wrote:He hasn't supplied a zero emissions model, he supplied a zero waste model. His brewery can't be zero emissions unless he captures and sequesters all the CO2 produced during brewing and sells his beer flat.
I don't know - I think you can make a pretty good case for "zero emissions" if you capture all the CO2 and pump it into the beer.
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Post by KMcK » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:56 pm

derek wrote:
KMcK wrote:He hasn't supplied a zero emissions model, he supplied a zero waste model. His brewery can't be zero emissions unless he captures and sequesters all the CO2 produced during brewing and sells his beer flat.
I don't know - I think you can make a pretty good case for "zero emissions" if you capture all the CO2 and pump it into the beer.
Sure, if you never open the beer.
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Post by Jimmy » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:19 pm

The customer is supposed to open the bottle, not him. :D

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Post by derek » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:57 am

KMcK wrote:
derek wrote:
KMcK wrote:He hasn't supplied a zero emissions model, he supplied a zero waste model. His brewery can't be zero emissions unless he captures and sequesters all the CO2 produced during brewing and sells his beer flat.
I don't know - I think you can make a pretty good case for "zero emissions" if you capture all the CO2 and pump it into the beer.
Sure, if you never open the beer.
No, CO2 has to be taken from somewhere to put it into beer, anyway, so if you're capturing it from your own processes, it's net zero. What's the process used to make tanked CO2, anyway?
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Post by know1 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:51 am

KMcK wrote:
derek wrote:
KMcK wrote:He hasn't supplied a zero emissions model, he supplied a zero waste model. His brewery can't be zero emissions unless he captures and sequesters all the CO2 produced during brewing and sells his beer flat.
I don't know - I think you can make a pretty good case for "zero emissions" if you capture all the CO2 and pump it into the beer.
Sure, if you never open the beer.
Some dirty industrial plants have to buy green credits to offset their emissions. In this case they could give away/sell heavily discounted beer for customers to release the CO2 off site. :lol:
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